Peaches Geldof has died

[Gandalf]

Lots of bitchy comments about heroin, but if it was alcohol, I suppose that would be more socially acceptable?

Most of us drink, but is heroin so terrible? William Burroughs recovered from alcohol induced jaundice by going back on the junk. It seems to have its uses. As a society we will demonise anything that we are told to, but shouldn't do so. Alcohol and fags are the biggest killers and I don't begrudge this person I have never known using a drug that the American government and international banks are openly laundering money for. We invade Afghanistan and opium production increases ten fold. It is no coincidence.

I have no idea who Peaches Geldof is but it is obvious she was into a drug that has become much more available and cheaply obtained via a gibberish war on terrorism. I have no idea about her personal situation, but I do think heroin is demonized and especially as we have massively hypocritical drug laws in all too many countries.

'Ooh, heroin! Nasty' people automatically assume. But legal drugs are numerically the worst in terms of official death estimates.

[greynotsoold]

Lots of bitchy comments about heroin, but if it was alcohol, I suppose that would be more socially acceptable?

Most of us drink, but is heroin so terrible? William Burroughs recovered from alcohol induced jaundice by going back on the junk. It seems to have its uses. As a society we will demonise anything that we are told to, but shouldn't do so. Alcohol and fags are the biggest killers and I don't begrudge this person I have never known using a drug that the American government and international banks are openly laundering money for. We invade Afghanistan and opium production increases ten fold. It is no coincidence.

I have no idea who Peaches Geldof is but it is obvious she was into a drug that has become much more available and cheaply obtained via a gibberish war on terrorism.

I have revived more overdosed heroin addicts than I care to count. Really, it was about 4 of them, but over and over and over again. One girl, she came to my house, used my bathroom and od'd. My uncle and I gave her CPR and worked on her for what seemed like forever, until I gave up on her and walked outside. I was going down the alley to tell her grandmother to come get her dead daughter and ran into her nephew. He ran back to my house and she came staggering out. She died in December of 04.
My uncle had a couple of bouts with heroin until, in 2000, he gave it up, just walked away from it. I have seen so much agony caused by heroin, that I told him that there was no way it could be worth the trouble. He assured me that it was and I said that I wanted to try it, then. he told me that, once I got started, he would love to do heroin with me, just so long as I told him who it was that helped me get started. So he could kill them.

[Gandalf]

Lots of bitchy comments about heroin, but if it was alcohol, I suppose that would be more socially acceptable?

Most of us drink, but is heroin so terrible? William Burroughs recovered from alcohol induced jaundice by going back on the junk. It seems to have its uses. As a society we will demonise anything that we are told to, but shouldn't do so. Alcohol and fags are the biggest killers and I don't begrudge this person I have never known using a drug that the American government and international banks are openly laundering money for. We invade Afghanistan and opium production increases ten fold. It is no coincidence.

I have no idea who Peaches Geldof is but it is obvious she was into a drug that has become much more available and cheaply obtained via a gibberish war on terrorism.

I have revived more overdosed heroin addicts than I care to count. Really, it was about 4 of them, but over and over and over again. One girl, she came to my house, used my bathroom and od'd. My uncle and I gave her CPR and worked on her for what seemed like forever, until I gave up on her and walked outside. I was going down the alley to tell her grandmother to come get her dead daughter and ran into her nephew. He ran back to my house and she came staggering out. She died in December of 04.
My uncle had a couple of bouts with heroin until, in 2000, he gave it up, just walked away from it. I have seen so much agony caused by heroin, that I told him that there was no way it could be worth the trouble. He assured me that it was and I said that I wanted to try it, then. he told me that, once I got started, he would love to do heroin with me, just so long as I told him who it was that helped me get started. So he could kill them.

That's a strong story.

My point is simply that more people die because of legal drugs than heroin. Then to extend that, someone like Burroughs lived a long time because heroin was the recourse. If it was only drink, he would have died similar to Kerouac. Instead, government monitored program eventually allowed him regular shots and thus no crime or issues from him. He lived a quiet life in the end.

Chronic heroin addiction is something nobody should want to get into, but my point is simply that the US government has expanded the global opium production via its foreign policy 10 fold. The war on drugs is a hoax. The war on terrorism is a hoax. Money is being made at a government level from heroin and yet it isn't regulated. This is just a bad situation and the market is flooded with heroin because we invaded Afghanistan where poppy production was falling.

I question if any of that is an accident knowing just how corrupt these people in government are. I don't think it is, there is evidence that the government likes to be involved in drug shipments.

[greynotsoold]

There is considerable evidence that heroin addicts can function and survive, given consistent access to affordable drugs of predictable purity. Canada and the UK once had maintenance systems in place until they adopted the US model, and there was considerable research done in the 1950s and 60s at a facility in Georgia (US), I think it was. They took volunteers from the prison system, and put them on a heroin maintenance program.

[Gandalf]

There is considerable evidence that heroin addicts can function and survive, given consistent access to affordable drugs of predictable purity. Canada and the UK once had maintenance systems in place until they adopted the US model, and there was considerable research done in the 1950s and 60s at a facility in Georgia (US), I think it was. They took volunteers from the prison system, and put them on a heroin maintenance program.

For sure, the problem with heroin generally has been the expense and the lack of quality in a black market. Regulated and managed, heroin addicts are far more civilised than mad drunks and cleaner smelling than nicotine lung destroyers. Heroin has a bad rep and deservedly so, but our societies excuse the worst of the worst. It is a complete contradiction. I expect nothing less from our bankrupt leaders with no knowledge of the real world beyond their Eton Schools and ritual buggery.

Cameron, we are watching you and we see you looking more and more fearful. I don't care about your buggery. I care about why you are letting heroin into the country, I care about you are starving poor people and letting the debt rise. I demand a debate with fat Dave and want our party to have a national debate with him. The man is avoiding all contact with the public as he is scared.

What a nob. I would bite his forehead off.

[Gandalf]

I take back the 'eating of the forehead' comment. Why would I eat such a disgusting fatty man's head? I would be immediately sick.

[Gandalf]

I'm in leader mode here and I am serious. Get me in a room with Cameron and see a debate of reality. I haven't lived there for years, but I am in touch far more than this man. I have lived on the streets, I know what the UK is, Cameron has no experience of this. Any of it. The man thinks a property bubble can perpetuate a hoax. It is sad that people like this are the serious votes. I honestly think people would be inspired if the likes of me and Ryan could really run amok amongst the electorate. Face to face and no bullshit. Who listens to twats in Eton voices with weak suits?