Eddie Chambers explains why Wladimir Klitschko is an all-time great

[El Kabong]

Chambers'd probably be an ATG himself if it weren't for the absolute dominance of Wladimir, never before seen at HW.

I believe Max is attempting to use my argument style hoping for equal effects... problem is that nobody is saying "Wlad is the best boxer in the history of boxing bar none" but if you ever doubted that Mayweather is far and alone the best ever or even dare name 1 single peer then #1 You catch hell and #2 you get called racist...or even if you imply Wladimir is good you get called racist.


Why do you guys have such a race problem? I don't care of what color a fighter is fuck I've hated Paulie Spadafora FOR AGES!!!! But I guess you can't handle a Ukrainian Heavyweight champion...gee super sorry, me and all the other white guys who run Boxing will get those belts right back to you many pardons!

[p4pking]

Umm, ok. That was just a harmless gif in response to the Chambers would be an ATG comment, I wasn't meaning to say Wlad is not a dominant champion. Criticize Floyd and you're called a racist? Wtf are you on about, half of this forum criticizes Floyd. I think you are wishful with that little theory because you enjoy arguing over such things myself.

[p4pking]

That's awesome that you hate Paul Spadafora though Lyle, do you also have a black friend? Man I had you all wrong. Gtfo with that shit.

[El Kabong]

That's awesome that you hate Paul Spadafora though Lyle, do you also have a black friend? Man I had you all wrong. Gtfo with that shit.

Oh for fucks sake did you not see anyone called a neo-nazi just now for even saying Wlad is good? Miss that? And yes there are people who are critical of Floyd Mayweather but the people who say he is great but just not the greatest are treated exactly the same not seen that either?

Also 0 times...0 times has anyone ever implied that a poster liked a fighter for the sole purpose of being black....it's almost as if blacks couldn't be racist when cheering for a fighter.


If your view of me has changed fine but I'm not taking constant racial abuse from posters

[p4pking]

That's awesome that you hate Paul Spadafora though Lyle, do you also have a black friend? Man I had you all wrong. Gtfo with that shit.

Oh for fucks sake did you not see anyone called a neo-nazi just now for even saying Wlad is good? Miss that? And yes there are people who are critical of Floyd Mayweather but the people who say he is great but just not the greatest are treated exactly the same not seen that either?

Also 0 times...0 times has anyone ever implied that a poster liked a fighter for the sole purpose of being black....it's almost as if blacks couldn't be racist when cheering for a fighter.


If your view of me has changed fine but I'm not taking constant racial abuse from posters

Err...did I say it Did you miss that? I'm just not sure why you quoted me on that tangent I guess.. I also think that using a singular example of someone you may like or dislike as evidence against a prejudice is always so utterly lame and suggests there is in fact a bit of one. I don't know whether you're a bigot or not, it doesn't really affect me either way.

[El Kabong]

That's awesome that you hate Paul Spadafora though Lyle, do you also have a black friend? Man I had you all wrong. Gtfo with that shit.

Oh for fucks sake did you not see anyone called a neo-nazi just now for even saying Wlad is good? Miss that? And yes there are people who are critical of Floyd Mayweather but the people who say he is great but just not the greatest are treated exactly the same not seen that either?

Also 0 times...0 times has anyone ever implied that a poster liked a fighter for the sole purpose of being black....it's almost as if blacks couldn't be racist when cheering for a fighter.


If your view of me has changed fine but I'm not taking constant racial abuse from posters

Err...did I say it Did you miss that? I'm just not sure why you quoted me on that tangent I guess.. I also think that using a singular example of someone you may like or dislike as evidence against a prejudice is always so utterly lame and suggests there is in fact a bit of one. I don't know whether you're a bigot or not, it doesn't really affect me either way.

OK how many do I have to name until it's not "utterly lame"? 5, 10, 100? I gave 1 example because that's all I needed to prove the point I was trying to make. If I'm supposed to support 100% of all the white fighters then not liking Spadafora disproves that theory. I can name more if you like....give me a number I'll hit it, fuck, what do you want me to do?

[p4pking]

Give me your top 10 most hated white fighters right now Lyle, and an in depth explanation of why they are inferior to at least 5 fighters of other ethnicity's for each. Otherwise you may as well be Hispanic for all I care.

[generalbulldog]

That's awesome that you hate Paul Spadafora though Lyle, do you also have a black friend? Man I had you all wrong. Gtfo with that shit.

Oh for fucks sake did you not see anyone called a neo-nazi just now for even saying Wlad is good? Miss that? And yes there are people who are critical of Floyd Mayweather but the people who say he is great but just not the greatest are treated exactly the same not seen that either?

Also 0 times...0 times has anyone ever implied that a poster liked a fighter for the sole purpose of being black....it's almost as if blacks couldn't be racist when cheering for a fighter.


If your view of me has changed fine but I'm not taking constant racial abuse from posters

Black people can never be racist. Only white people and white people only have that trait.

Damn, I have to say this place has become troll central.

[Silkeyjoe]

Wlad clearly an all time great. You don't dominate a division for so long without being an all time great. Wlad has not ducked anyone like a lot of all time greats have. Put him in with any fighter of any era in his prime and he'd have a great chance.

[cyclone]

Wlad clearly an all time great. You don't dominate a division for so long without being an all time great. Wlad has not ducked anyone like a lot of all time greats have. Put him in with any fighter of any era in his prime and he'd have a great chance.

Vlad has been KTFO in the weakest era EVER...he'd be a sitting duck in the more competitive eras.

That trash is hardly an ATG.

[Ron Swanson]

Chambers'd probably be an ATG himself if it weren't for the absolute dominance of Wladimir, never before seen at HW.

I believe Max is attempting to use my argument style hoping for equal effects... problem is that nobody is saying "Wlad is the best boxer in the history of boxing bar none" but if you ever doubted that Mayweather is far and alone the best ever or even dare name 1 single peer then #1 You catch hell and #2 you get called racist...or even if you imply Wladimir is good you get called racist.


Why do you guys have such a race problem? I don't care of what color a fighter is fuck I've hated Paulie Spadafora FOR AGES!!!! But I guess you can't handle a Ukrainian Heavyweight champion...gee super sorry, me and all the other white guys who run Boxing will get those belts right back to you many pardons!

You say Mayweather detractors catch hell. Perhaps you should look at the other side. On a thread designed to attack me and a couple other posters none of which I've ever seen say Floyd is the greatest I pointed out there werre 17 Floyd threads on the front page and none were started by Floyd fans. Who's really catching hell?

Couple quick clarifications I was joking about Wlad, he does jump on backs and hold but if he's allowed it's on his opposition to figure a way around it.

And also when I say Floyd fan I in no way mean I support violence against women or other forms of duechebaggery. Simply a fan of the fighter, not the man.