Is Mayweather a all time great?

[Max Power]

Hearns style was based on range and power. I can see that being a somewhat easily surmountable issue for Floyd. His length would give him a slight ungainliness against Floyd who would exploit it and counter him all night. I think he'd eventually score a KO against the reasonably chinny Hearns.

Hearns was also fast but not as quick as Floyd.

I am not familiar with Hearns at all. Never seen him fight don't know his record but I think your brief description of his style makes sense that Floyd would do well against that particular style. I think after the Maidana fight we got a taste of what can beat Floyd.

Well I was only a little kid when he was prominent but based on what I have seen, namely his famous fights, he was very very good, one of the best. But does get widely overrated as most famous boxers both past and current do. But Floyd is Floyd.

I would say that Floyd is the undisputed greatest wanker in history of the sport too if it weren't for his little brother Adrien Broner lol

[Mr140]

Hearns would be a terrible match up for Mayweather his reach and power would be all she wrote. Hearns has a 80 inch reach dude Mayweather has always had the reach over his opponents. So if he can not outbox Hearns which no one ever did he would have to go for the kill and unlike Leonard his offense was not as good and i really do not think his chin would hold up if he went for the kill. As for Leonard i just think he would outwork Mayweather at ww not sure how Bentiez fight would go very boring. Duran Mayweather best beat but Jlc did give him a lot of problems. I think pac gets smashed by all the guys from the 80's because they were to big and were to fast and to well trained. Also when were talking about atg Mayweather is in the top 15 and pac i would say is in top 25 in my rankings anyhow.

[Max Power]

Hearns would be a terrible match up for Mayweather his reach and power would be all she wrote. Hearns has a 80 inch reach dude Mayweather has always had the reach over his opponents. So if he can not outbox Hearns which no one ever did he would have to go for the kill and unlike Leonard his offense was not as good and i really do not think his chin would hold up if he went for the kill. As for Leonard i just think he would outwork Mayweather at ww not sure how Bentiez fight would go very boring. Duran Mayweather best beat but Jlc did give him a lot of problems. I think pac gets smashed by all the guys from the 80's because they were to big and were to fast and to well trained. Also when were talking about atg Mayweather is in the top 15 and pac i would say is in top 25 in my rankings anyhow.

You must be on drugs with that post. Top 15 and 25... Really?

They are both top 10, along with Leonard. Whether the other guys make it from the 80's idk because there have been and are so many good fighters lb for lb since as well.

The Pac comment might have some merit because of Pac's natural size, I am unsure how big those 80's guys were now, Hagler sure he was pretty tank so that is a respectable opinion but to think that Hearns would be a favourite over Mayweather falls into a lighter category than your usual OTNB antics!

I don't think Mayweather would really sweat the reach of Hearns all that much. As if Floyd could not outbox Hearns my god!

Alvarez would have smashed Hagler. And look what Floyd did to him!

The only guy I am certain would pose a real big threat to Floyd would be Leonard because of the all round talent and the athleticism. Floyd would still be the favourite though you gotta give him that.

As for Pac. The prime+roided version. There is no telling how he could have performed against those bigger guys because they did not have the same speed or athleticism as Pac and definitely not the strength, synthetic as it was. Hagler and Leonard might have been too much for him to handle, much as I believe Canelo might be the same for Pac today.

But Pac would smash the shit out of Hearns, I'd lay a sum on that!

I really rate the 80's limit weight fighters highly, all of them are atleast top 20 and atleast Leonard close to the top. But this aura of invincibility your ascribing them is a bit over the top, they were the best there ever was THEN, MAYBE not now!

And the degrading way you try to belittle both Pac and Floyd by ranking them out of the top 10 and even top 20 exposes you as a troll! lol

No sober analyst could really swallow that garbage!

[Mr140]

Lol dude Mayweather would lose to Leonard most just on out put Leonard had way better offense. He dealt with master in defense in Bentiez and tore him apart when he was not even prime yet. Hearns was a beast who carried his power up to fucking cw and was never out boxed in his prime. You think Oscar gave Mayweather problems please Hearns beats Mawyeather based on reach and size not mention be able to box near the same level. Hearns is the worst fucking match up for Mayweather besides Leonard that i can think of and if you don't think so all i can say is you overrate this era more then old timers do theres all i have to say. You make some ok points but on this one i think full of shit really anyhow oh well. I mean if a 34 year Old Oscar fighting part time could give Mayweather a go and think Hearns can't i really don't know dude.

[Mr140]

Pac got fucking flattened by fucking Jmm he not lasting a second with Hearns. The second he goes in and is of blanced and countered he is going to sleep Duran style my friend. Hearns fucking lost one time to Leonard at ww and he had to go through Hell to get to Hearns you underrate them very badly.

[Max Power]

Pac got fucking flattened by fucking Jmm he not lasting a second with Hearns. The second he goes in and is of blanced and countered he is going to sleep Duran style my friend. Hearns fucking lost one time to Leonard at ww and he had to go through Hell to get to Hearns you underrate them very badly.

I am sorry but I think rating Thomas Hearns in the top 20, possibly the edge of the top 10 as the greatest boxers of all time including current and all boxers since him as a pretty fucking FLATTERING rating mate!!

You always have to clump the top fighters of an era together and assess how they performed against each other as a proof of how they'd be unbeatable for those of the current era. Maybe they were challenged by each other simply because that's what they were purely up against.

How do you know Leonard could have beaten a prime Pac at a comparable weight? What visual evidence can you produce of their fights to prove that point?

He definitely could have, that's not my point here, the point is that you make a lot of assumptions without actually pointing to some performances in which it could be noted that Pac (or Floyd) would not handle that.

Pac's beaten bigger fighters. Floyd has too. JMM is a very good bloody fighter too!

[Mr140]

I am saying at 147 i would give the edge to Leonard over all of them if they fought at the weight class. Not doing pound for pound hear i am saying at 147 I fell Hearns and Leonard beat Mayweather and Pac and if they fight at 154 i fell there chances are even because Hearns was even better there and Leonard i wont go with Hagler because he was a mw champ i see no chance for them there. As for Benitez have you Followed his Career when he was youngest champ 40-0 was 140 and 147 champ and Leonard fucking beat the shit out of him he was a great fighter.