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    Politicians all talk drivel im just hoping someone does something about immigration , as we are full. The conservatives and labour put use in the mess we are , they talk and do nothing. UKIP'S rise in the number of votes is because the rest have failed us big time.
    Looks like the French etc have voted to stop immigration also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Politicians all talk drivel im just hoping someone does something about immigration , as we are full. The conservatives and labour put use in the mess we are , they talk and do nothing. UKIP'S rise in the number of votes is because the rest have failed us big time.
    Looks like the French etc have voted to stop immigration also.
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    You may not agree but I don't want to see filth like this on my streets. This is England and this is not acceptable and I cannot accept that anyone here wants this on their doorstep , or if you do please say.
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    I read all these articles and forget what I have read and seemingly I only had the Romanian numbers stored in my head. Combined with Bulgarians seemingly over 45,000 people from these two countries have registered for national insurance numbers in the first 3 months of 2014. Now obviously, this would only be the numbers of registered immigrants, so it's anyones guess how many are out undercutting honest workers and doing it on the sly. Logically you would assume it to be be far higher than 45,000.

    45,000 is the size of a small town and it isn't as though new homes are being built in the UK which is in the middle of a housing bubble designed for fat Dave to get reelected as there are no other rabbits in the hat. Cue another housing and stocks collapse and thousands made homeless and bankrupt as interest rates creep up even a little bit. Then the rentier class can gobble all the houses up and rent them to families with 3 to a room who pool together and do whatever whilst another generation of Brits is lost into the ether or pushed into the workhouse or forced to evacuate and Victorian Britain comes back into vogue with the splendid addition of a police state. But of course the NHS must go, meanwhile the biggest predator and destroyer of lives, the RBS, must be protected at all costs. It's a joke and these people have no credibility or legitimacy and are the vilest and lowest of all human forms. I'm sick of them and my vote counts for nothing nor for anybody else in an age of bailouts, privatisation, student debt, immigration, Europe etc etc. None of this was voted for by a public mandate, none of it. It is completely illegitimate.

    50,000 Romanian and Bulgarian migrants applied for work in UK in 3 months | Mail Online

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    The simple fact is UKIP just won seats in the European election , so it seems lots of people agree with them .
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Politicians all talk drivel im just hoping someone does something about immigration , as we are full. The conservatives and labour put use in the mess we are , they talk and do nothing. UKIP'S rise in the number of votes is because the rest have failed us big time.
    Looks like the French etc have voted to stop immigration also.
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    You may not agree but I don't want to see filth like this on my streets. This is England and this is not acceptable and I cannot accept that anyone here wants this on their doorstep , or if you do please say.
    Why do you see them as filth? They are women having sandwiches and enjoying conversation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
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    Politicians all talk drivel im just hoping someone does something about immigration , as we are full. The conservatives and labour put use in the mess we are , they talk and do nothing. UKIP'S rise in the number of votes is because the rest have failed us big time.
    Looks like the French etc have voted to stop immigration also.
    Attachment 3172
    You may not agree but I don't want to see filth like this on my streets. This is England and this is not acceptable and I cannot accept that anyone here wants this on their doorstep , or if you do please say.
    Why do you see them as filth? They are women having sandwiches and enjoying conversation.
    Romanian beggars , your welcome to them if you want them , but not for me my friend.
    Or in your mind do you think they all come to the UK with £200,000 in the bank from their house sale back in Romania ?
    Or do you accept they have nothing ?

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    Ukip's European elections win worrying, says Tony Blair | Politics | theguardian.com

    To hell with you, Blair. You started this mess. You accepted Thatcher was right on privatisation, you secretly started unchecked immigration, you have destroyed the young people with debt, and allowed bankers to collapse a system as it wasn't regulated. Then you want to innocently ponder on the UKIP 'problem'. You are a scumbag and should have been on that first tank to Iraq.

    I am sick of you popping up with your thoroughly unwanted point of view. You are a despicable and soulless human being and we all want you in The Hague. Will you please go away. Tosser.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Ukip's European elections win worrying, says Tony Blair | Politics | theguardian.com

    To hell with you, Blair. You started this mess. You accepted Thatcher was right on privatisation, you secretly started unchecked immigration, you have destroyed the young people with debt, and allowed bankers to collapse a system as it wasn't regulated. Then you want to innocently ponder on the UKIP 'problem'. You are a scumbag and should have been on that first tank to Iraq.

    I am sick of you popping up with your thoroughly unwanted point of view. You are a despicable and soulless human being and we all want you in The Hague. Will you please go away. Tosser.
    It amazes me that another person in this case Tony B Liar talks about Britain worrying about the rise of UKIP , who do these fuckwits think voted for UKIP ? Yes B Liar it was the British people. Another past politician who made a balls of it when he had the chance to do it right , now hes a fucking expert , what a surprise , fuck you B Lair .

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    Here are some facts Australia, population 23 million approx 34 times bigger than the UK, with a population of 64 million.
    Our little island doe's not have much room left, a concrete country side I don't want.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dia bando View Post
    Here are some facts Australia, population 23 million approx 34 times bigger than the UK, with a population of 64 million.
    Our little island doe's not have much room left, a concrete country side I don't want.

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    "According to the most detailed analysis ever conducted, almost 98% of England is, in their word, natural. Elsewhere in the UK, the figure rises to more than 99%. It is clear that only a small fraction of Britain has been concreted over."

    There is plenty of room
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    Romanian Immigration: Medical Staff Now In Highest Demand As Britain Struggles For Nurses

    "After the Francis Report [into the Mid Staffordshire care scandal], the government decided hospitals needed to recruit more nurses, but there is a real shortage of trained professionals in the UK.
    "The government realised it made the cuts in the wrong places. We now estimate there are 20,000 vacancies for nurses in the UK. And the homegrown supply is not sufficient. If you need new nurses quickly, you have to look overseas."

    The statistics will confirm what many migrant rights experts have said about EU immigration, that migrants come to Britain to do jobs that cannot be filled with British workers.
    European countries, Catton said, are unlikely to be happy with the situation of nurses and doctors taking jobs in Britain. "They pay to train them in their home countries and then they are poached for jobs in Britain. For many countries that is unacceptable".
    Dr Ion Jinga, Romania's ambassador to the UK said: "The EU labour market has become increasingly competitive and every economy aims to attract bright brains and highly skilled workers. Romania’s economy is growing fast, with a 5.2% GDP growth in the final quarter of 2013 – the biggest rise in the EU – and a full-year rate of 3.5%, and the EU average growth was only 0.1%.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Romanian Immigration: Medical Staff Now In Highest Demand As Britain Struggles For Nurses

    "After the Francis Report [into the Mid Staffordshire care scandal], the government decided hospitals needed to recruit more nurses, but there is a real shortage of trained professionals in the UK.
    "The government realised it made the cuts in the wrong places. We now estimate there are 20,000 vacancies for nurses in the UK. And the homegrown supply is not sufficient. If you need new nurses quickly, you have to look overseas."

    The statistics will confirm what many migrant rights experts have said about EU immigration, that migrants come to Britain to do jobs that cannot be filled with British workers.
    European countries, Catton said, are unlikely to be happy with the situation of nurses and doctors taking jobs in Britain. "They pay to train them in their home countries and then they are poached for jobs in Britain. For many countries that is unacceptable".
    Dr Ion Jinga, Romania's ambassador to the UK said: "The EU labour market has become increasingly competitive and every economy aims to attract bright brains and highly skilled workers. Romania’s economy is growing fast, with a 5.2% GDP growth in the final quarter of 2013 – the biggest rise in the EU – and a full-year rate of 3.5%, and the EU average growth was only 0.1%.
    Maybe we can employ the thousands of non English speaking Romanian gypsies sleeping rough in our parks or begging on our streets in the NHS ? Good Idea.
    Or are you saying they are all skilled English speaking nurses and doctors ?
    which are these - Attachment 3174
    Doctors or Nurses ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Romanian Immigration: Medical Staff Now In Highest Demand As Britain Struggles For Nurses

    "After the Francis Report [into the Mid Staffordshire care scandal], the government decided hospitals needed to recruit more nurses, but there is a real shortage of trained professionals in the UK.
    "The government realised it made the cuts in the wrong places. We now estimate there are 20,000 vacancies for nurses in the UK. And the homegrown supply is not sufficient. If you need new nurses quickly, you have to look overseas."

    The statistics will confirm what many migrant rights experts have said about EU immigration, that migrants come to Britain to do jobs that cannot be filled with British workers.
    European countries, Catton said, are unlikely to be happy with the situation of nurses and doctors taking jobs in Britain. "They pay to train them in their home countries and then they are poached for jobs in Britain. For many countries that is unacceptable".
    Dr Ion Jinga, Romania's ambassador to the UK said: "The EU labour market has become increasingly competitive and every economy aims to attract bright brains and highly skilled workers. Romania’s economy is growing fast, with a 5.2% GDP growth in the final quarter of 2013 – the biggest rise in the EU – and a full-year rate of 3.5%, and the EU average growth was only 0.1%.
    Maybe we can employ the thousands of non English speaking Romanian gypsies sleeping rough in our parks or begging on our streets in the NHS ? Good Idea.
    Or are you saying they are all skilled English speaking nurses and doctors ?
    which are these - Attachment 3174
    Doctors or Nurses ?
    Are you saying they are all beggars ? Are you saying all Romanians and Bulgarians are Romany Gypsies ? Or Are you saying all Romanian and Bulgarians are all unskilled ? I never said every single Romanian is a Doctor or Nurse or even that every single Romanian was a skilled worker. I would not make such a blanket statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Romanian Immigration: Medical Staff Now In Highest Demand As Britain Struggles For Nurses

    "After the Francis Report [into the Mid Staffordshire care scandal], the government decided hospitals needed to recruit more nurses, but there is a real shortage of trained professionals in the UK.
    "The government realised it made the cuts in the wrong places. We now estimate there are 20,000 vacancies for nurses in the UK. And the homegrown supply is not sufficient. If you need new nurses quickly, you have to look overseas."

    The statistics will confirm what many migrant rights experts have said about EU immigration, that migrants come to Britain to do jobs that cannot be filled with British workers.
    European countries, Catton said, are unlikely to be happy with the situation of nurses and doctors taking jobs in Britain. "They pay to train them in their home countries and then they are poached for jobs in Britain. For many countries that is unacceptable".
    Dr Ion Jinga, Romania's ambassador to the UK said: "The EU labour market has become increasingly competitive and every economy aims to attract bright brains and highly skilled workers. Romania’s economy is growing fast, with a 5.2% GDP growth in the final quarter of 2013 – the biggest rise in the EU – and a full-year rate of 3.5%, and the EU average growth was only 0.1%.
    Isn't this an issue of Britain's University system being a complete failure rather than needing medical staff alone? Last year I taught classes of nursing students in this country and see that important jobs like this are being prepared for. If I go to hospital it is always a Korean nurse who speaks English and I appreciate that. Now why on earth are people in the UK studying English, or geography, when there is a demand for nursing?

    It's easy to ignore the basic common sense that the system is simply failing British people. Schools encourage students to study crap and this is the cream of the crop now getting tens of thousands of pounds into debt as bank slaves. How about just being sensible and telling young people that nursing is useful, helpful, valued, and to guarantee conditions so that young people want to be nurses?

    It is wrong to carry on this parade that 'We need these overseas workers'. We don't, we just need to accept that the system is fucked and to deal with it. England for the English isn't such a bad thing if you care about the English. If you don't then of course the media will spin it as Satanism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gandalf View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Romanian Immigration: Medical Staff Now In Highest Demand As Britain Struggles For Nurses

    "After the Francis Report [into the Mid Staffordshire care scandal], the government decided hospitals needed to recruit more nurses, but there is a real shortage of trained professionals in the UK.
    "The government realised it made the cuts in the wrong places. We now estimate there are 20,000 vacancies for nurses in the UK. And the homegrown supply is not sufficient. If you need new nurses quickly, you have to look overseas."

    The statistics will confirm what many migrant rights experts have said about EU immigration, that migrants come to Britain to do jobs that cannot be filled with British workers.
    European countries, Catton said, are unlikely to be happy with the situation of nurses and doctors taking jobs in Britain. "They pay to train them in their home countries and then they are poached for jobs in Britain. For many countries that is unacceptable".
    Dr Ion Jinga, Romania's ambassador to the UK said: "The EU labour market has become increasingly competitive and every economy aims to attract bright brains and highly skilled workers. Romania’s economy is growing fast, with a 5.2% GDP growth in the final quarter of 2013 – the biggest rise in the EU – and a full-year rate of 3.5%, and the EU average growth was only 0.1%.
    Isn't this an issue of Britain's University system being a complete failure rather than needing medical staff alone? Last year I taught classes of nursing students in this country and see that important jobs like this are being prepared for. If I go to hospital it is always a Korean nurse who speaks English and I appreciate that. Now why on earth are people in the UK studying English, or geography, when there is a demand for nursing?

    It's easy to ignore the basic common sense that the system is simply failing British people. Schools encourage students to study crap and this is the cream of the crop now getting tens of thousands of pounds into debt as bank slaves. How about just being sensible and telling young people that nursing is useful, helpful, valued, and to guarantee conditions so that young people want to be nurses?

    It is wrong to carry on this parade that 'We need these overseas workers'. We don't, we just need to accept that the system is fucked and to deal with it. England for the English isn't such a bad thing if you care about the English. If you don't then of course the media will spin it as Satanism.
    Stop being so wilfully stupid. You do not live in England and go on and on about how it has changed and how you do not recognise it anymore and then in the same breath you arrogantly diagnose it from afar and prescribe an end to all it's woes as though the English themselves are nothing to do with it. I fucking live here 24 hours a day every day. I work in the Education system and seriously, truthfully, English kids do not want to work in Nursing or care because it is not seen as sexy. That is not the fault of a University that offers nursing and medical degrees that run half full because nobody wants to put the hard work in to finish the course. "England for the English" ? you sound like fucking Nick Griffin from the BNP.

    Schools do not encourage students to study Krap and since when has English and Geography counted as Krap? you studied English or is it just Krap now? Not everybody wants to work in the healthcare system and so in a free Europe professionally qualified people with the right to work will move where the work is. You are the one spinning everything as Satanism because you can not simply accept that the world has moved on from your extremely boring, safe, straight conservative values. That is the hilarious truth of the matter for all your harping on you are the one stuck in his ways bemoaning Jonny foreigner and the fuzzy wuzzies taking over your beloved England whilst you swan it up in South Korea, flicking bogeys at an 80 year old lady from thousands of miles away.
    Last edited by Beanz; 05-26-2014 at 04:48 PM. Reason: from not form which in a diatribe about English was really bad form from me on a forum
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