UK - Council and European Election

[Gandalf]

You were born and bred in this country so show appreciation. The issues you talk about happen everywhere even where you live now.

No, Master. I have to disagree. I was raised to believe that the world of 1984 was a fiction and not a reality. That fact alone astonishes me. It has become reality and I won't sugarcoat it.

The UK (and America) are demented and the logic of the world says as much. I like cricket, but that doesn't mean that I am going to lie about immigration, property, and taxes. The Brits are being fleeced and should be angry. There is nothing deluded in a pure wave of rage amongst the youth.

[Beanz]

You were born and bred in this country so show appreciation. The issues you talk about happen everywhere even where you live now.

No, Master. I have to disagree. I was raised to believe that the world of 1984 was a fiction and not a reality. That fact alone astonishes me. It has become reality and I won't sugarcoat it.

The UK (and America) are demented and the logic of the world says as much. I like cricket, but that doesn't mean that I am going to lie about immigration, property, and taxes. The Brits are being fleeced and should be angry. There is nothing deluded in a pure wave of rage amongst the youth.

Stop already. Stop telling people what they should be. I work here in the UK with young people and the pure wave of rage you talk about is yours and yours alone. Of course Governments are corrupt and have been long before either of us were born but that does not mean you can fill an entire thread about the recent elections with your own personal ranting on things, which in reality, have very little bearing on your own life. Stop dismissing other people's conclusions and opinions simply because of your 'research' or on the strength of 'data' you have collected whilst all the time completely ignoring the facts that Ryanman and myself have presented to you.

I am sorry if I have attacked you personally but your whole attitude is preposterous and is impossible to meet with rationality. You are mixing up a carefully considered opinion that is very different from your own, one that reacts in understandable shock at people's unwitting acceptance of a political party father to the right and more conservative than the corrupt elite funded Tory party in power, with an unthinking naivety and acceptance of the presented facts by traditional media. I am not a dullard or a sheep and have not only been aware of, and created work in response to, secret societies like the Bilderbergs and Rothschilds, but have also highlighted worrying trends like covert Government and company surveillance literally, years ago.

I will not be party to remaining silent while UKIP seek to increase taxes on the poor and defend those further to the right than the current Government and corrupt bankers that have already lined their own pockets at our expense. I will not shut up when they seek to dismantle the NHS. I will not take the easy road of condemning and over simplifying the facts by blaming all Britain's troubles on Immigration and single mothers whilst the fat cats lick the cream off their paws and sit at home on a £64,000 salary instead of defending Britain and it's workers in the Parliament they have been elected to.

Without wanting to needlessly insult you, You sound like a little boy who has just discovered that the Punch and Judy puppets are just that, puppets and that it is a man who has been saying

"thats the way to do it"

and bashing a sausage stealing crocodile with a truncheon all along. You are eager to tell all the other boys but they already know, and have done for some time.


You say you do not believe in patriotism or any such silly jingoistic nonsense and then go on to draw clear distinctions between not only nationalities, but classes of people and even sexes, as though everyone should behave like you, and all be university educated, and get married but have no kids, and if they are in anyway different then they must be irresponsible or lazy or stealing the jobs of others.

Go and start your own thread about how England has disappointed you by not remaining frozen in time like a mouldy sausage roll from Gregs, suspended in formaldehyde like some limp reminder of a golden age that never was and an England that never existed.

[Gandalf]

I've always told the truth. I don't owe you any special explanations. From top to bottom I will spill blood. I don't care less about popular appeal or fun, I care about being honest at the point in time. If it isn't what you like then so be it. If it is, then so be it. You can play these games about enemies or cunts, but I think it is pathetic. And it makes me angry. I don't like it.

I'm not playing a game. I am annoyed with the UK, but I do still have interests just as strong as yours. That is my anger. It is seemingly impossible to educate these people.

[Beanz]

I've always told the truth. I don't owe you any special explanations. From top to bottom I will spill blood. I don't care less about popular appeal or fun, I care about being honest at the point in time. If it isn't what you like then so be it. If it is, then so be it. You can play these games about enemies or cunts, but I think it is pathetic. And it makes me angry. I don't like it.

I'm not playing a game. I am annoyed with the UK, but I do still have interests just as strong as yours. That is my anger. It is seemingly impossible to educate these people.

The difference is, I do something about it. I will march in the streets. I will communicate to the world. I will undertake the previously untenable position of walking into a polling both and making my mark. You sit at home and rant.

You will never have interests as strong as mine because this England is not only the place of my birth, this green and pleasant land is the home and birthplace of my children and my Grandchildren. I will never refer to others as, 'these people', and yet it is my job to help educate people here in England where I live. I am not playing a game my friend and you have just handed in all of your cards.

[Gandalf]

I can see this post going where it's going but I have to get it out quickly. GB, you clown, I don't think you are a sheep at all, but sometimes I do. Just look at the realities of house ownership or student debt. You know the system is ruining young people. It is evil. No excuses. It is rotten and evil.

Otherwise, sell me your house for 80,000 pounds.

[Gandalf]

That last post might have sounded evil without the post of GB before it. I am not offering to buy his house. I would like to but I wont. I don't think any English home is worth 80,000 pounds. They try to lie, but it is lies. Lots of lies in that country.That is my main point. History will prove me correct.

[Beanz]

I can see this post going where it's going but I have to get it out quickly. GB, you clown, I don't think you are a sheep at all, but sometimes I do. Just look at the realities of house ownership or student debt. You know the system is ruining young people. It is evil. No excuses. It is rotten and evil.

Otherwise, sell me your house for 80,000 pounds.

I live in a bungalow that is worth more than £80, 000, and there is nothing evil about house ownership, just because you have not bought one yourself.

[Gandalf]

I can see this post going where it's going but I have to get it out quickly. GB, you clown, I don't think you are a sheep at all, but sometimes I do. Just look at the realities of house ownership or student debt. You know the system is ruining young people. It is evil. No excuses. It is rotten and evil.

Otherwise, sell me your house for 80,000 pounds.

I live in a bungalow that is worth more than £80, 000, and there is nothing evil about house ownership, just because you have not bought one yourself.

Oh really, hypocrite. You accused me of owning gold and called me a hoarder. You are clearly a house owner.

[Beanz]

I can see this post going where it's going but I have to get it out quickly. GB, you clown, I don't think you are a sheep at all, but sometimes I do. Just look at the realities of house ownership or student debt. You know the system is ruining young people. It is evil. No excuses. It is rotten and evil.

Otherwise, sell me your house for 80,000 pounds.

I live in a bungalow that is worth more than £80, 000, and there is nothing evil about house ownership, just because you have not bought one yourself.

Oh really, hypocrite. You accused me of owning gold and called me a hoarder. You are clearly a house owner.

How does that make me a hypocrite ? and who said I was a house owner ?

[Master]

I've always told the truth. I don't owe you any special explanations. From top to bottom I will spill blood. I don't care less about popular appeal or fun, I care about being honest at the point in time. If it isn't what you like then so be it. If it is, then so be it. You can play these games about enemies or cunts, but I think it is pathetic. And it makes me angry. I don't like it.

I'm not playing a game. I am annoyed with the UK, but I do still have interests just as strong as yours. That is my anger. It is seemingly impossible to educate these people.

The country you live in which you pay you taxes has it own and in some cases same problems.

I am sure there is a south korian teaching in the UK sprouting the same arguments you are putting about his country.

[Gandalf]

I've always told the truth. I don't owe you any special explanations. From top to bottom I will spill blood. I don't care less about popular appeal or fun, I care about being honest at the point in time. If it isn't what you like then so be it. If it is, then so be it. You can play these games about enemies or cunts, but I think it is pathetic. And it makes me angry. I don't like it.

I'm not playing a game. I am annoyed with the UK, but I do still have interests just as strong as yours. That is my anger. It is seemingly impossible to educate these people.

The country you live in which you pay you taxes has it own and in some cases same problems.

I am sure there is a south korian teaching in the UK sprouting the same arguments you are putting about his country.

Maybe, but I don't play games. I am serious. I like Korea, but I am angry about the UK.

[Beanz]

I've always told the truth. I don't owe you any special explanations. From top to bottom I will spill blood. I don't care less about popular appeal or fun, I care about being honest at the point in time. If it isn't what you like then so be it. If it is, then so be it. You can play these games about enemies or cunts, but I think it is pathetic. And it makes me angry. I don't like it.

I'm not playing a game. I am annoyed with the UK, but I do still have interests just as strong as yours. That is my anger. It is seemingly impossible to educate these people.

The country you live in which you pay you taxes has it own and in some cases same problems.

I am sure there is a south korian teaching in the UK sprouting the same arguments you are putting about his country.

Maybe, but I don't play games. I am serious. I like Korea, but I am angry about the UK.

You are angry about lots of things. Do not take it out on us.

[Dia bando]

There is nothing wrong with owning your home, and there is nothing wrong with renting your
home, it's up to the individual.!

[Gandalf]

There is nothing wrong with owning your home, and there is nothing wrong with renting your
home, it's up to the individual.!

I agree completely.

That's my point, but this man has accused me of being Shylock and yet has his own home. I don't. So should I call him a home hoarder. Or a home deviant.

I haven't invested in a property bubble. My point is simply that attacking me is unjust. I am not buying UK property, so maybe my point of view is a non-vested one.

[Dia bando]

A vote for UKIP in next years election, would be for a party that wants to get rid of the NHS, Public
services they are nothing more, than Tory EU haters to be honest most people voted for UKIP
as a protest vote. Look at there policies what they stand for just a bunch of cunts, more rich
bastards lording it over us.