Can froch ever beat Ward?

[Master]

You can never say never but he has a slim chance of winning. I like the way Froch and Hearn are trying to pretend ward does not exist, or say he will not fill a stadium because they know Froch will not beat Ward.

[Rantcatrat]

Maybe if Ward goes into the fight with two broken hands then Froch has a chance.

Ward has the Hopkins-like ability to take away the jab of fighters with very good jabs. Without the jab Froch is just a slow-footed fighter with rubbish technique albeit hard/tough/warrior blah blah. Froch didn't beat a pound for pound guy last weekend, Groves hasn't shown he can even last twelve rounds at world level yet. Ward is on another level to Froch, or at least the pre shoulder injury pre layoff Ward was.

The shoulder injury was somewhat of an excuse because since his shoulder injury, Ward doesn't use that arm very much.

To the OP's question, no, Froch cannot beat Ward on most days. Ward is the best of this era's super middleweights, and Froch is the second best. Ward should move up in weight. Froch probably has put together a HOF career by the way.

[cyclone]

Froch has absolutely no chance of beating Ward. End of story.
That's why he wants to fight Chavez in Vegas, and if that falls through, it'll be Froch vs Kessler 3. I don't begrudge him that end to his career, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking he has a chance against Ward .

Stop acting like Ward is Hagler or some shit.

Of Course Froch has a chance to beat Ward.

[cyclone]

Maybe if Ward goes into the fight with two broken hands then Froch has a chance.

Ward has the Hopkins-like ability to take away the jab of fighters with very good jabs. Without the jab Froch is just a slow-footed fighter with rubbish technique albeit hard/tough/warrior blah blah. Froch didn't beat a pound for pound guy last weekend, Groves hasn't shown he can even last twelve rounds at world level yet. Ward is on another level to Froch, or at least the pre shoulder injury pre layoff Ward was.

The shoulder injury was somewhat of an excuse because since his shoulder injury, Ward doesn't use that arm very much.

To the OP's question, no, Froch cannot beat Ward on most days. Ward is the best of this era's super middleweights, and Froch is the second best. Ward should move up in weight. Froch probably has put together a HOF career by the way.

Why Ward move up?

Why can't Froch?

Or GG's overrated ass...why can't he move up?

[imp]

Ward cant move up yet.
His body isnt ready.

I watched the ward vs froch fight again and gave it 9-3 ward.

Froch was still strong in the last round but that really meant nothing to the overall picture.

Froch takes so many shots and I dont see him beating ward no matter how much I like them both.

[Master]

Froch has absolutely no chance of beating Ward. End of story.
That's why he wants to fight Chavez in Vegas, and if that falls through, it'll be Froch vs Kessler 3. I don't begrudge him that end to his career, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking he has a chance against Ward .

Stop acting like Ward is Hagler or some shit.

Of Course Froch has a chance to beat Ward.

As Primo Carnera has already said obviously he has a chance but in reality it is very slim.

[cyclone]

Froch has absolutely no chance of beating Ward. End of story.
That's why he wants to fight Chavez in Vegas, and if that falls through, it'll be Froch vs Kessler 3. I don't begrudge him that end to his career, but let's not kid ourselves into thinking he has a chance against Ward .

Stop acting like Ward is Hagler or some shit.

Of Course Froch has a chance to beat Ward.

As Primo Carnera has already said obviously he has a chance but in reality it is very slim.

As long as Ward stays off the ropes.

[Mr140]

Honestly if he can not beat Ward or move up and be the man at 175 i not sure why Froch be in the hall of fame. He not very popular fighter world wide for most of his career and he was never the man in his division he was behind Ward and Kessler for a while. Froch wasted a very good portion of his career and really did not fight anyone worth a note or even ranked in long time of fighting. I mean that changed he beat Taylor but i mean what was he at smw nothing same with Abrham was not really success a smw. He beat Bute, Pascal, and Kessler he is tied with i think his career is good but not really great.

[powerpuncher]

froch could make it into the HOF just because the HOF is a joke. he isnt really even that great of a fighter. he is a good fighter. he has shown that his grit can get him through some fights and has shown that he lacks some essential components to be great. again, ward beats him at least 9/10.

[Rantcatrat]

I'd prefer to see Froch against Junior or GGG first. We've seen Froch fight Ward already and it wasn't too close. Ward is a great fighter and he'll carve out a great career once he fixes his legal dispute with Goosen. Before that happens, he can't fight anyway. Froch-Junior would be terrific in Vegas. I don't really need to see Kessler against Froch again because Kessler wasn't the same in the last fight. GGG moving up in weight to face Froch has the making for a barn burner.

[Rantcatrat]

froch could make it into the HOF just because the HOF is a joke. he isnt really even that great of a fighter. he is a good fighter. he has shown that his grit can get him through some fights and has shown that he lacks some essential components to be great. again, ward beats him at least 9/10.

Ward will get in too.

[Rantcatrat]

froch could make it into the HOF just because the HOF is a joke. he isnt really even that great of a fighter. he is a good fighter. he has shown that his grit can get him through some fights and has shown that he lacks some essential components to be great. again, ward beats him at least 9/10.

Froch now deserves a seat at the table though of the great British super middleweights, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe etc. I'm not arguing he's the best, but he's at the table.

[powerpuncher]

froch could make it into the HOF just because the HOF is a joke. he isnt really even that great of a fighter. he is a good fighter. he has shown that his grit can get him through some fights and has shown that he lacks some essential components to be great. again, ward beats him at least 9/10.

Froch now deserves a seat at the table though of the great British super middleweights, Benn, Eubank, Calzaghe etc. I'm not arguing he's the best, but he's at the table.

thats fine but im just stating the fact that the general boxing HOF is a joke anyways so froch will most likely get in even though he in no way deserves it IMO. a lot of fighters in there done deserve to be in there.

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Ward would win at least 7 times out of 10.

Ward has an abundance of practical mechanics that would keep Froch short of going through his usual motions.... Froch would really need to look at what he does with his feet, his use of range and levels (all of which are just to far back along the developmental line at this point) to have a notable chance of winning.

Having said that, I would like to see him get the rematch. I'm hoping he is/ has learned to listen to Rob McCracken who I think is a very good trainer and so maybe a rematch would be a bit more competitive than the last.

I will say now (as I have before) that I don't really care for ''if's and but's'', particularly where injuries are concerned, so the whole broken hand thing is a non point for me... Who's to say Ward wouldn't break two hands next time. That would only leave his head. Which would make it a much fairer fight

[jakesmithnrb]

He certainly can, now is the time to do it, he is at the very peak of his career, he wants to go out ona high and I think froch will beat him.