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Hey , I have no problem with Hopkins and I think he would be in for the achievement of being a World Champ at his age. He lost to guys like Jermain Taylor so wasn't the no.1 in the division or dominant.

....you do realize that before he lost to Jermain Taylor (which was a controversial result, btw), he was THE man at MW for about 10 years prior, with 17 or 18 title defenses?

Are we talking about the same guy?
I was thinking the same thing. Hop was the man at middle from around 1998/99 (maybe even as early as 1994 when Roy moved up and G-Man moved up) until 2005 when he was ripped off vs. Taylor. After that, he spent the rest of his time at 175 and as lineal champ was considered "the man" at that weight 3 separate times. Guys just hate Hop because he transitioned to a more cerebral fighter from a seek and destroy guy. I can see a case for Hop, Floyd, or Manny to be considered greatest fighter of their generation. Everyone else is easily a level below and out of the discussion.