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    Default Re: Andre Ward speaks on his lack of fights!

    I don't feel bad for him at all but he does suffer from the same disease Rigo does. He's got to technically sound sickness. Odd that Floyd has been making 40 million a fight for more then 5 years suffering from the same illness.

    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward speaks on his lack of fights!

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I don't feel bad for him at all but he does suffer from the same disease Rigo does. He's got to technically sound sickness. Odd that Floyd has been making 40 million a fight for more then 5 years suffering from the same illness.

    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.
    Floyd throws nice clean crisp punches standing in punching distance. He doesn't rely on throwing an overhand right aimed at going over the opponents shoulder just to lurch in and hold. Floyd is nice to watch. Ward isn't. Ward his hideous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I don't feel bad for him at all but he does suffer from the same disease Rigo does. He's got to technically sound sickness. Odd that Floyd has been making 40 million a fight for more then 5 years suffering from the same illness.

    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.
    Floyd throws nice clean crisp punches standing in punching distance. He doesn't rely on throwing an overhand right aimed at going over the opponents shoulder just to lurch in and hold. Floyd is nice to watch. Ward isn't. Ward his hideous.
    Dont agree. I enjoy watching but I also love the technical aspects of the sport and the "sweet science" that gets lost in all the highlight reel no hoper madness. If people don't see a knockout by round six they actually feel violated. Ward needs an attitude adjustment not a style change. The ignorant boxing masses are more to blame for Wards present state then Wards style.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward speaks on his lack of fights!

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I don't feel bad for him at all but he does suffer from the same disease Rigo does. He's got to technically sound sickness. Odd that Floyd has been making 40 million a fight for more then 5 years suffering from the same illness.

    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.
    Floyd throws nice clean crisp punches standing in punching distance. He doesn't rely on throwing an overhand right aimed at going over the opponents shoulder just to lurch in and hold. Floyd is nice to watch. Ward isn't. Ward his hideous.
    Dont agree. I enjoy watching but I also love the technical aspects of the sport and the "sweet science" that gets lost in all the highlight reel no hoper madness. If people don't see a knockout by round six they actually feel violated. Ward needs an attitude adjustment not a style change. The ignorant boxing masses are more to blame for Wards present state then Wards style.

    for once I do actually agree with ross


    wards style is punch on the way in and once he is in he holds/spoils


    he rarely punches and then stays in a position to land a few more or throw another combination or whatever


    hes like the best in the world at being first to the punch and doesn't need anything else


    and I don't think wards style can be compared to mayweathers
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    Default Re: Andre Ward speaks on his lack of fights!

    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I don't feel bad for him at all but he does suffer from the same disease Rigo does. He's got to technically sound sickness. Odd that Floyd has been making 40 million a fight for more then 5 years suffering from the same illness.

    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.
    Floyd throws nice clean crisp punches standing in punching distance. He doesn't rely on throwing an overhand right aimed at going over the opponents shoulder just to lurch in and hold. Floyd is nice to watch. Ward isn't. Ward his hideous.
    Dont agree. I enjoy watching but I also love the technical aspects of the sport and the "sweet science" that gets lost in all the highlight reel no hoper madness. If people don't see a knockout by round six they actually feel violated. Ward needs an attitude adjustment not a style change. The ignorant boxing masses are more to blame for Wards present state then Wards style.

    for once I do actually agree with ross
    wards style is punch on the way in and once he is in he holds/spoils
    he rarely punches and then stays in a position to land a few more or throw another combination or whatever
    hes like the best in the world at being first to the punch and doesn't need anything else
    and I don't think wards style can be compared to mayweathers
    Nah you guys are taking things to extremes.
    The idea after all is to hit and not get hit
    Not stand there in the pocket when that's not your style so Johnny fan base can get his ko fix
    Ward is a safety first fighter and his style is a lot like Floyds especially in versatility. Rigo also shares that quality. Its like watching a surgeon. They almost make the opponent look silly and in so doing ruin the fight for that portion of the viewing public better suited to wearing togas. Him and Floyd share all kinds of qualities and subtle nuance. Wards also most likely the best switch hitter in boxing and can even do it on the fly and that's why there were so many bumps in the Kessler fight. Kessler was like a deer in the headlights.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward speaks on his lack of fights!

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I don't feel bad for him at all but he does suffer from the same disease Rigo does. He's got to technically sound sickness. Odd that Floyd has been making 40 million a fight for more then 5 years suffering from the same illness.

    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.
    Floyd throws nice clean crisp punches standing in punching distance. He doesn't rely on throwing an overhand right aimed at going over the opponents shoulder just to lurch in and hold. Floyd is nice to watch. Ward isn't. Ward his hideous.
    Dont agree. I enjoy watching but I also love the technical aspects of the sport and the "sweet science" that gets lost in all the highlight reel no hoper madness. If people don't see a knockout by round six they actually feel violated. Ward needs an attitude adjustment not a style change. The ignorant boxing masses are more to blame for Wards present state then Wards style.

    for once I do actually agree with ross
    wards style is punch on the way in and once he is in he holds/spoils
    he rarely punches and then stays in a position to land a few more or throw another combination or whatever
    hes like the best in the world at being first to the punch and doesn't need anything else
    and I don't think wards style can be compared to mayweathers
    Nah you guys are taking things to extremes.
    The idea after all is to hit and not get hit
    Not stand there in the pocket when that's not your style so Johnny fan base can get his ko fix
    Ward is a safety first fighter and his style is a lot like Floyds especially in versatility. Rigo also shares that quality. Its like watching a surgeon. They almost make the opponent look silly and in so doing ruin the fight for that portion of the viewing public better suited to wearing togas. Him and Floyd share all kinds of qualities and subtle nuance. Wards also most likely the best switch hitter in boxing and can even do it on the fly and that's why there were so many bumps in the Kessler fight. Kessler was like a deer in the headlights.
    Bullshit!

    If Ward was made to fight by the rules he would look like he did against Bika in the last two rounds.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward speaks on his lack of fights!

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Bullshit!

    If Ward was made to fight by the rules he would look like he did against Bika in the last two rounds.
    Which is why Kovalev would destroy him.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward speaks on his lack of fights!

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I don't feel bad for him at all but he does suffer from the same disease Rigo does. He's got to technically sound sickness. Odd that Floyd has been making 40 million a fight for more then 5 years suffering from the same illness.

    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.
    Floyd throws nice clean crisp punches standing in punching distance. He doesn't rely on throwing an overhand right aimed at going over the opponents shoulder just to lurch in and hold. Floyd is nice to watch. Ward isn't. Ward his hideous.
    Dont agree. I enjoy watching but I also love the technical aspects of the sport and the "sweet science" that gets lost in all the highlight reel no hoper madness. If people don't see a knockout by round six they actually feel violated. Ward needs an attitude adjustment not a style change. The ignorant boxing masses are more to blame for Wards present state then Wards style.

    for once I do actually agree with ross
    wards style is punch on the way in and once he is in he holds/spoils
    he rarely punches and then stays in a position to land a few more or throw another combination or whatever
    hes like the best in the world at being first to the punch and doesn't need anything else
    and I don't think wards style can be compared to mayweathers
    Nah you guys are taking things to extremes.
    The idea after all is to hit and not get hit
    Not stand there in the pocket when that's not your style so Johnny fan base can get his ko fix
    Ward is a safety first fighter and his style is a lot like Floyds especially in versatility. Rigo also shares that quality. Its like watching a surgeon. They almost make the opponent look silly and in so doing ruin the fight for that portion of the viewing public better suited to wearing togas. Him and Floyd share all kinds of qualities and subtle nuance. Wards also most likely the best switch hitter in boxing and can even do it on the fly and that's why there were so many bumps in the Kessler fight. Kessler was like a deer in the headlights.
    Bullshit!

    If Ward was made to fight by the rules he would look like he did against Bika in the last two rounds.

    You don't like him. Fair enough. I don't either but I know a brilliant technician when I see one.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward speaks on his lack of fights!

    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    I don't feel bad for him at all but he does suffer from the same disease Rigo does. He's got to technically sound sickness. Odd that Floyd has been making 40 million a fight for more then 5 years suffering from the same illness.

    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.
    Floyd throws nice clean crisp punches standing in punching distance. He doesn't rely on throwing an overhand right aimed at going over the opponents shoulder just to lurch in and hold. Floyd is nice to watch. Ward isn't. Ward his hideous.
    Dont agree. I enjoy watching but I also love the technical aspects of the sport and the "sweet science" that gets lost in all the highlight reel no hoper madness. If people don't see a knockout by round six they actually feel violated. Ward needs an attitude adjustment not a style change. The ignorant boxing masses are more to blame for Wards present state then Wards style.

    for once I do actually agree with ross
    wards style is punch on the way in and once he is in he holds/spoils
    he rarely punches and then stays in a position to land a few more or throw another combination or whatever
    hes like the best in the world at being first to the punch and doesn't need anything else
    and I don't think wards style can be compared to mayweathers
    The idea after all is to hit and not get hit
    Not stand there in the pocket when that's not your style so Johnny fan base can get his ko fix

    this is absolutely true


    thing is tho, to attract the fans, get the fights and make the money, you have to have something that that is attractive to the fans


    I personally think ward lacks that attraction in the ring and with his persona out of the ring, I think he deserves a break but I think there needs to be a rethink in his camp/promotion


    he could be a superstar with a few tweaks


    and like I say I think dropping the son of god name would be a massive start
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    Quote Originally Posted by erics44 View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    The idea after all is to hit and not get hit
    Not stand there in the pocket when that's not your style so Johnny fan base can get his ko fix

    this is absolutely true
    thing is tho, to attract the fans, get the fights and make the money, you have to have something that that is attractive to the fans
    I personally think ward lacks that attraction in the ring and with his persona out of the ring, I think he deserves a break but I think there needs to be a rethink in his camp/promotion
    he could be a superstar with a few tweaks
    and like I say I think dropping the son of god name would be a massive start
    But that's like asking Pep to fight like Saddler or Locche to fight like Jofre. Its not the boxers fault that some fight fans don't understand boxing and also make up the majority of the ppv buying public.Why should he dummy down his abilities to suit them? The two powder puncher defensive wizards I mentioned filled the house every time they fought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.
    Read the article, he goes into detail why moving up isn't a good option for him. Stevenson is on another network and Kovalev isn't a PPV or even a big money fight for him, and then if he beats Kovalev he's left with nothing else up there.

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    Default Re: Andre Ward speaks on his lack of fights!

    If one of the top P4P boxers (Ward) who is the best in a very exciting division (168lbs) thinks he can't get a PPV fight against the most exciting and devastating KO artist to come along in years (Kovalev)... Then he's lying to himself probably because he's scared. They can make that into a huge fight without much effort. Everyone wants to see Ward get ripped to shreads and Kovalev would tear thru him in few rounds.

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    Ward would embarrass Kovalev. And that isn't a PPV fight. Kovalev doesn't have the name value.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Ward would embarrass Kovalev. And that isn't a PPV fight. Kovalev doesn't have the name value.

    You missed my point. Ward is supposed to be one of the best fighters in the game. Pitting him against a pure KO artist SHOULD be enough to attract an audience. Its Ward that is lacking the star power to make this a PPV fight. Ward is the one who spoils the PPV....

    Make a highlight reel of Kovalev's wake of destruction and people will want to watch him fight anyone.
    If you make a highlight reel of Ward grabbing and hugging guys and you may be able to play it in a bathhouse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IamInuit View Post
    Ward can blame himself for much of his downfall by waiting for everyone to knock on his door. What I don't get is why he has not moved up? Whats he waiting for or rather who. He could break the door down himself by whipping Stevenson or Kovalev. Those could be his Gatti's. Instead he sits and whines and goes on strike.
    Read the article, he goes into detail why moving up isn't a good option for him. Stevenson is on another network and Kovalev isn't a PPV or even a big money fight for him, and then if he beats Kovalev he's left with nothing else up there.
    I'm not blaming him alone for the status quo. I'm blaming the status quo also. This whole network crap and warring promoters is disgusting. Its not even about boxing anymore. Its becoming like one of those sad reality tv shows like Mountain men or Duck Dynasty. And based on the rise of that dumb ass programming, the viewing public is not getting any smarter.

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