Tyson was already standing straight up looking for one punch with muchless head movement than the 80s Tyson. Holyfield was in his damnedest best prime in '91. Evander wins this one. A long slow beat down. UD or maybe late stoppage.
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Tyson was already standing straight up looking for one punch with muchless head movement than the 80s Tyson. Holyfield was in his damnedest best prime in '91. Evander wins this one. A long slow beat down. UD or maybe late stoppage.
by all means, Holyfield would do far better than Tillis
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Holyfeild would take it at anytime i fell just a bad match up for Tyson really if you think about it. He had a chin, could recover fast, had stamina for days, could fight inside well and box, more heart then anyone and his head was fucking made of steel. Holyfeild is bad news for most to ever walk into the ring.
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Holyfield's style made it difficult for Tyson to work on the inside. Head to a side, arms in a cross blocking formation protecting the body, ready to roll and counter if Tyson went upstairs...and Evander was constantly moving forward never allowing Tyson to settle and build a rhythm or work his way inside to land cleanly.
Also at 205...who's to say Tyson's chin would have been as good at a lower weight? We saw Chris Byrd a relatively iron jawed heavyweight go down to 175 and get trashed by a guy who wasn't that big of a puncher. We've seen RJJ who went down in weight get a bit weaker in the chin.
Holyfield was just the bigger, badder, bully....ALWAYS. And regardless of time he'd always get Tyson for his lunch money.
I think the most interesting matches for Holyfield would have been Ken Norton and Joe Frazier and the best for Tyson would have been Riddick Bowe and Sonny Liston
Well for a number of reasons:
1. Bowe's lack of fights against other top tier heavyweights especially power punchers
2. Bowe's willingness to give up his height and reach to fight on the inside which is what Tyson always needed vs the taller, lankier, fighters he faced.
3. Bowe and Tyson were from the same neighborhood
4. The excellent records both had at the time
I hate that "Well in his prime he was unbeatable" bullshit...Tyson was better in his prime, but let's not go crazy (as Tyson fans ALWAYS do)Originally Posted by Master
Yeah Evander chose Foreman...wow, what a pushover....might I add that Tyson wanted 0 part of Foreman in his comeback and for good reason, Foreman would have killed Tyson.
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Remember how one dimensional, telegraphed and still able to land on Tyson Ruddock was also.
Foreman literally lifted Holyfield off his feet with shots to the body and he was still shooting off 20 punch hook combos later on. Same thing happened to Tyson after he hit him with the best body shots he had in the 5th of fight #1. 205, 212...Holyfield was just all wrong for Tyson and would have been the one doing the breaking.
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Maybe I'm guilty of Navajo code talking again
Saying that the biggest spots I can remember Holyfield sponging big body shots that he didn't crumble and could bounce back, and against Tyson he already had. For me its a non hypothetical really. We're talking 5 years not era vs era or decades. Holyfield aged and took damage as much as Tyson did in that time. It was Holyfield being literally compared to a walking corpse in 96'.
Holyfield beats him every time no matter the year.
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You all know nothing. Tyson 1986 version destroys any version Holyfield.
Tyson in 1991 was on the slide but he took the bombs from Ruddock so he certainly could take the punches of Evander who was smaller.
Holyfield ha a chance to fight Tyson but chose Foreman instead.
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I'd go with Tyson for sure.
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Holyfield is an enigma, he was a great fighter but not a great champion at the weight because for all his great wins he had poor performances. Holyfield would have weight 205lb in 1991 against Tyson so Mike may have battered him but the pumped up anti-Tyson version weighing the same as Mike in the return would have beaten Tyson. Mike was deteriorating fast and prison extended his career.
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