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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Tyson would have decapitated him at 205lb which was what Evander weighed at his peak. Tyson's body shots would split Evander and he would have had broken ribs. Remember what Tyson did to Ruddock, he broke his jaw too.
    Holyfield's style made it difficult for Tyson to work on the inside. Head to a side, arms in a cross blocking formation protecting the body, ready to roll and counter if Tyson went upstairs...and Evander was constantly moving forward never allowing Tyson to settle and build a rhythm or work his way inside to land cleanly.


    Also at 205...who's to say Tyson's chin would have been as good at a lower weight? We saw Chris Byrd a relatively iron jawed heavyweight go down to 175 and get trashed by a guy who wasn't that big of a puncher. We've seen RJJ who went down in weight get a bit weaker in the chin.


    Holyfield was just the bigger, badder, bully....ALWAYS. And regardless of time he'd always get Tyson for his lunch money.


    I think the most interesting matches for Holyfield would have been Ken Norton and Joe Frazier and the best for Tyson would have been Riddick Bowe and Sonny Liston
    Why Bowe? Due to his lack of dedication n presumed fright of Tyson?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Why Bowe? Due to his lack of dedication n presumed fright of Tyson?
    Well for a number of reasons:

    1. Bowe's lack of fights against other top tier heavyweights especially power punchers
    2. Bowe's willingness to give up his height and reach to fight on the inside which is what Tyson always needed vs the taller, lankier, fighters he faced.
    3. Bowe and Tyson were from the same neighborhood
    4. The excellent records both had at the time

    Quote Originally Posted by Master
    You all know nothing. Tyson 1986 version destroys any version Holyfield.

    Tyson in 1991 was on the slide but he took the bombs from Ruddock so he certainly could take the punches of Evander who was smaller.

    Holyfield ha a chance to fight Tyson but chose Foreman instead.
    I hate that "Well in his prime he was unbeatable" bullshit...Tyson was better in his prime, but let's not go crazy (as Tyson fans ALWAYS do)

    Yeah Evander chose Foreman...wow, what a pushover ....might I add that Tyson wanted 0 part of Foreman in his comeback and for good reason, Foreman would have killed Tyson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Why Bowe? Due to his lack of dedication n presumed fright of Tyson?
    Well for a number of reasons:

    1. Bowe's lack of fights against other top tier heavyweights especially power punchers
    2. Bowe's willingness to give up his height and reach to fight on the inside which is what Tyson always needed vs the taller, lankier, fighters he faced.
    3. Bowe and Tyson were from the same neighborhood
    4. The excellent records both had at the time

    Quote Originally Posted by Master
    You all know nothing. Tyson 1986 version destroys any version Holyfield.

    Tyson in 1991 was on the slide but he took the bombs from Ruddock so he certainly could take the punches of Evander who was smaller.

    Holyfield ha a chance to fight Tyson but chose Foreman instead.
    I hate that "Well in his prime he was unbeatable" bullshit...Tyson was better in his prime, but let's not go crazy (as Tyson fans ALWAYS do)

    Yeah Evander chose Foreman...wow, what a pushover ....might I add that Tyson wanted 0 part of Foreman in his comeback and for good reason, Foreman would have killed Tyson.
    Utter nonsense Tyson chose Ruddock who was far more dangerous than Foreman. If Foreman wanted Tyson then he could also have not taken the Holyfield fight where he had even less chance of winning.
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    Ruddock could hit harder than Holy with one shot, but he was no where near as mobile or versatile as evander was. Additionally, ruddock had no right hand n loaded up with "the smash" hybrid he threw. Evander would always be able to land the jab consistently, counter effectively, and overwhelm Tyson with four and five punch combinations. Holy was past his prime when they fought as well, but his mentality n style would always be too much for Mike Tyson.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Why Bowe? Due to his lack of dedication n presumed fright of Tyson?
    Well for a number of reasons:

    1. Bowe's lack of fights against other top tier heavyweights especially power punchers
    2. Bowe's willingness to give up his height and reach to fight on the inside which is what Tyson always needed vs the taller, lankier, fighters he faced.
    3. Bowe and Tyson were from the same neighborhood
    4. The excellent records both had at the time

    Quote Originally Posted by Master
    You all know nothing. Tyson 1986 version destroys any version Holyfield.

    Tyson in 1991 was on the slide but he took the bombs from Ruddock so he certainly could take the punches of Evander who was smaller.

    Holyfield ha a chance to fight Tyson but chose Foreman instead.
    I hate that "Well in his prime he was unbeatable" bullshit...Tyson was better in his prime, but let's not go crazy (as Tyson fans ALWAYS do)

    Yeah Evander chose Foreman...wow, what a pushover ....might I add that Tyson wanted 0 part of Foreman in his comeback and for good reason, Foreman would have killed Tyson.
    Utter nonsense Tyson chose Ruddock who was far more dangerous than Foreman. If Foreman wanted Tyson then he could also have not taken the Holyfield fight where he had even less chance of winning.
    Foreman KO'd Cooney for a shot at Tyson....Tyson didn't want the fight

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    I feel like Tyson was made for Foreman, even more so than Evander. George would've looked spectacular destroying Mike. He would've weathered the early storm n manhandled Mike and hit him like no one else could, including Lennox. George could be outboxed, but short, squat, aggressive fighters were his favorite.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by El Kabong View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Hulk View Post
    Why Bowe? Due to his lack of dedication n presumed fright of Tyson?
    Well for a number of reasons:

    1. Bowe's lack of fights against other top tier heavyweights especially power punchers
    2. Bowe's willingness to give up his height and reach to fight on the inside which is what Tyson always needed vs the taller, lankier, fighters he faced.
    3. Bowe and Tyson were from the same neighborhood
    4. The excellent records both had at the time

    Quote Originally Posted by Master
    You all know nothing. Tyson 1986 version destroys any version Holyfield.

    Tyson in 1991 was on the slide but he took the bombs from Ruddock so he certainly could take the punches of Evander who was smaller.

    Holyfield ha a chance to fight Tyson but chose Foreman instead.
    I hate that "Well in his prime he was unbeatable" bullshit...Tyson was better in his prime, but let's not go crazy (as Tyson fans ALWAYS do)

    Yeah Evander chose Foreman...wow, what a pushover ....might I add that Tyson wanted 0 part of Foreman in his comeback and for good reason, Foreman would have killed Tyson.
    Utter nonsense Tyson chose Ruddock who was far more dangerous than Foreman. If Foreman wanted Tyson then he could also have not taken the Holyfield fight where he had even less chance of winning.
    Tyson fought Ruddock after he and King were sued for pulling out of a earlier contracted fight with Ruddock in Canada and instead fought "a less dangerous"...Buster Douglas Douglas actually knew how to put his punches together too.

    Holyfield was the champion and after a Tyson fight fell through because he was flattened by Douglas Holyfield was well within right to make a inaugural defense with massively popular cash cow Foreman. Tyson was up next and was set but he couldn't keep his dick in his pants and hands off the women..oh and had a 'hurt rib'. Enter Francisco Damiani then Bert Cooper.

    Foreman and Tyson would have been a juggernaut event, HUGE! George basically called him out fight by fight in comeback.

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    Personally, I think Tyson did right not fighting George. His (TYson's) potential loss would prove nothing to me.
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    All this shit about Foreman being to big and strong for Tyson

    Look at their respective fights with Alex Stewart. Tyson wiped him out inside a round, using him as a comeback opponent. Formean got beat up and a gift decision and coincidentally had a harder time with Stewart than he did with Holyfield.

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    Default Re: Tyson-Hollyfield 1991

    it was probably barry mcguigan that got me into boxing


    but the Tyson pomp was one of the most memorable and enjoyable times for me in the sport


    so im probably a fantasist but Tyson in his prime would have KOed Hollyfield in the first half of the fight


    its such a pity the dream didn't last a bit longer
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