Andre Ward will never be popular or an ATG

[cyclone]

Cyclone why are you such a troll with Calzaghe i mean such hate for the man did he fuck your mom or something every thread don't get it. I mean the guy beat Kessler, bika, Lacy and Hopkins who still winning and also had 20 defenses with being the man at smw and lhw retired undefeated as well.

Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins before Joe did.

Big deal.

All Calzhage had to do was go to the states and fight Hopking in 01 instead of foolishly expecting Hopkins to drop everything and fight him in Whales.

Hop was riding high off beating Tito...Joe was fresh off his sintilating victory over the dreaded TOKKER PUDWELL.

He could have EASILLY fought RJJ in his prime but ADMITTED he stood 0 chance.
James Toney was around too..but Joe wasn't.

Who did Kessler and Bika beat to be so highly praised

Sven Ottke fought and beat Glenn Johnson..

Joe SHAMELESSLY ducked him...Jim Lampley said it on the air and he's a Joe ball-washer.

Joe played it safe.... even the refs playing it safe for him by jumping in to stop fights for no reason.

Mayweather would have a 99% KO record if he had refs jump in to stop fights just because he was swinging at the air.

Name ONE american fighter that could get away with fighting the LOSER of an elimination bout.
Name ONE american fighter that has refs jump to stop fights for nothing.
Name ONE american fighter that slaps at the air like a spastic monkey yet is considered an ATG.
Name ONE american fighter that can hide behind the weakest belt and duck the best comp without being roundly critisized.

American fighters are held to a higher standard for a reason.

How about Mayweather fighting Judah on the back of his loss to Baldomir?

He tried to fight Baldo but he wanted to defend his title against Gatti before basically handing his belt over to Mayweather.

Judah didnt get KTFO like the guy Scary Joe cherrypicked.

Judah > Brewer

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Cyclone why are you such a troll with Calzaghe i mean such hate for the man did he fuck your mom or something every thread don't get it. I mean the guy beat Kessler, bika, Lacy and Hopkins who still winning and also had 20 defenses with being the man at smw and lhw retired undefeated as well.

Jermain Taylor beat Hopkins before Joe did.

Big deal.

All Calzhage had to do was go to the states and fight Hopking in 01 instead of foolishly expecting Hopkins to drop everything and fight him in Whales.

Hop was riding high off beating Tito...Joe was fresh off his sintilating victory over the dreaded TOKKER PUDWELL.

He could have EASILLY fought RJJ in his prime but ADMITTED he stood 0 chance.
James Toney was around too..but Joe wasn't.

Who did Kessler and Bika beat to be so highly praised

Sven Ottke fought and beat Glenn Johnson..

Joe SHAMELESSLY ducked him...Jim Lampley said it on the air and he's a Joe ball-washer.

Joe played it safe.... even the refs playing it safe for him by jumping in to stop fights for no reason.

Mayweather would have a 99% KO record if he had refs jump in to stop fights just because he was swinging at the air.

Name ONE american fighter that could get away with fighting the LOSER of an elimination bout.
Name ONE american fighter that has refs jump to stop fights for nothing.
Name ONE american fighter that slaps at the air like a spastic monkey yet is considered an ATG.
Name ONE american fighter that can hide behind the weakest belt and duck the best comp without being roundly critisized.

American fighters are held to a higher standard for a reason.

How about Mayweather fighting Judah on the back of his loss to Baldomir?

He tried to fight Baldo but he wanted to defend his title against Gatti before basically handing his belt over to Mayweather.

Judah didnt get KTFO like the guy Scary Joe cherrypicked.

Judah > Brewer

Judah was beaten convicingly by Baldomir.