Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
Like Kurtz said, EXTERMINATE ALL THE BRUTES.
There is 1 thing the people in the Middle East respect, that is POWER the difference between the power of Saddam and the power of the United States is that our power should be used for justice, liberty, and to show the Iraqi people the way of civil governance is through the rule of law, laws invented by reason, and that not every single solitary issue should result in extremes of violence.

Iraq has warring factions and yes it's difficult to see how we quell that, however to attempt to address the situation and in doing so place one group in a vulnerable situation and then just up and leave does nothing but create more resentment, doubt, and hostility and the can is kicked down the road for the next generation to solve. the problems get worse doing what we've done. If we do nothing they fight, if we go there they fight, but if our presence is strongest we hold sway over the sectarian groups and if this is the case we become nonviolent arbitrators and progress can be made. It's a long difficult process to attempt to civilize such a culture, but it could be done with the help and continued support of our allies.....but we got distracted, our allies got distracted, and Iraq is now alone in this from a Western perspective....all that Iraq has now is MORE sectarian factions ready to do battle and wanting revenge for the war.

The Iraq war at the beginning went awesome, but it devolved into what is tantamount to spraying water on a hornets' nest.....we've won no friends there. Our enemies are still our enemies, our allies in Iraq have been left helpless and will be more and more resentful of our deserting them in their time of need this is why if you have a war you WIN, you make certain you are the clear cut victor, you control then you leave or you keep a presence there for the foreseeable future just like we have in Germany, Italy, Japan, and South Korea.