Iraq

[Nameless]

the Hawk of the Bush administration just had no clues how it was working; they had big insigns from some top military but prefered to listen to their very own twisted ideology and really thought that the "freedom" tag they'd give to people would mean goodies all along the way. They couldn't have been any more wrong and they are the fucknuts who did spark the problem. Not Obama. Sure, Obama didn't handle the situation any better but he got handed a large plate of poo and I am not sure that there was anything much better to do at this point. Stop blindly blaming the libs Lyle, look at both side of the medals and you'll see that the elephant started the mess the donkey couldn't stop.

The elephant started the mess eh?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ENAV_UoIfgc

Hmmmm.....well certainly you've got me there

Who attacked Iraq first? Ain't it Bush SR? And then, who officially put the Us Army in Iraq? Ain't that Bush Jr? Though Bill asked to do something, he's not the one who did officially send the army first (or second shall I say).
Also, Clinton didn't want things to be done the way the Hawks of the Neo-Cons think-thank wanted it; they were the only silly idiots thinking it would be over in over 3 weeks. And they are the one who invented the WMD scheme in order to reate a reason to attack. Even Wolfowitz who was one of the top 3 hawks did admit it afterward, that it was all a lie but " a bureaucratic reason upon which all could agree to attack". Talk about a bunch of fuckin filthy liars focusing on the profit of their very own friends with no regard for the life of others:
USATODAY.com - Wolfowitz comments revive doubts over Iraq's WMD

Perpetually Wrong Paul Wolfowitz Is Still Convinced He Knows What Would Have Happened in Iraq If We Hadn’t Invaded | Vanity Fair

[El Kabong]

You're right, you're right...We've GOT to give Democrats a pass but please continue on hating both George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush simply because they are Republicans and all Republicans are evil. Those Progressive Liberals ALWAYS have everyone's best interests at heart and even if they fail (which they ALWAYS DO) their good intentions are what truly matters.


You can't be this wishy washy with Allies, you CAN'T it is fucking idiotic. You don't want war then don't go in, but once you're in a war fucking be in it to WIN! You just can't be so fucking half assed with people who need our help, their lives are in danger due to our being there regardless of what got us to that point so either we own up to our word and help or we head home and try to block out shit like this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGoILUv4S0


But hey you know Go Team Obama!

[Andre]

You're right, you're right...We've GOT to give Democrats a pass but please continue on hating both George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush simply because they are Republicans and all Republicans are evil. Those Progressive Liberals ALWAYS have everyone's best interests at heart and even if they fail (which they ALWAYS DO) their good intentions are what truly matters.


You can't be this wishy washy with Allies, you CAN'T it is fucking idiotic. You don't want war then don't go in, but once you're in a war fucking be in it to WIN! You just can't be so fucking half assed with people who need our help, their lives are in danger due to our being there regardless of what got us to that point so either we own up to our word and help or we head home and try to block out shit like this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGoILUv4S0


But hey you know Go Team Obama!

Why split hairs between parties? They are all systematic murdering cunts the lot of them.
Why stick up for any of them, fuck their sides and their stupid political games.

[El Kabong]

You're right, you're right...We've GOT to give Democrats a pass but please continue on hating both George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush simply because they are Republicans and all Republicans are evil. Those Progressive Liberals ALWAYS have everyone's best interests at heart and even if they fail (which they ALWAYS DO) their good intentions are what truly matters.


You can't be this wishy washy with Allies, you CAN'T it is fucking idiotic. You don't want war then don't go in, but once you're in a war fucking be in it to WIN! You just can't be so fucking half assed with people who need our help, their lives are in danger due to our being there regardless of what got us to that point so either we own up to our word and help or we head home and try to block out shit like this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGoILUv4S0


But hey you know Go Team Obama!

Why split hairs between parties? They are all systematic murdering cunts the lot of them.
Why stick up for any of them, fuck their sides and their stupid political games.

Because 1 party hates America and the other doesn't

[Kirkland Laing]

You're right, you're right...We've GOT to give Democrats a pass but please continue on hating both George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush simply because they are Republicans and all Republicans are evil. Those Progressive Liberals ALWAYS have everyone's best interests at heart and even if they fail (which they ALWAYS DO) their good intentions are what truly matters.


You can't be this wishy washy with Allies, you CAN'T it is fucking idiotic. You don't want war then don't go in, but once you're in a war fucking be in it to WIN! You just can't be so fucking half assed with people who need our help, their lives are in danger due to our being there regardless of what got us to that point so either we own up to our word and help or we head home and try to block out shit like this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGoILUv4S0


But hey you know Go Team Obama!

Why split hairs between parties? They are all systematic murdering cunts the lot of them.
Why stick up for any of them, fuck their sides and their stupid political games.

Because 1 party hates America and the other doesn't

Is the party the one who invaded Iraq on a pack of lies they made up, got seven thousand American troops sent home in bodybags and thirty thousand seriously wounded and cost the country three trillion dollars only to put Iran -- the central bankers of terrorism -- in power in Iraq the party who hates America? Not to mention precipitating the current situation. It would seem that way, no?

[Kirkland Laing]

You're right, you're right...We've GOT to give Democrats a pass but please continue on hating both George H. W. Bush and George W. Bush simply because they are Republicans and all Republicans are evil. Those Progressive Liberals ALWAYS have everyone's best interests at heart and even if they fail (which they ALWAYS DO) their good intentions are what truly matters.


You can't be this wishy washy with Allies, you CAN'T it is fucking idiotic. You don't want war then don't go in, but once you're in a war fucking be in it to WIN! You just can't be so fucking half assed with people who need our help, their lives are in danger due to our being there regardless of what got us to that point so either we own up to our word and help or we head home and try to block out shit like this.....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mlGoILUv4S0


But hey you know Go Team Obama!

Just over the last few months you would have sent American troops into Syria, Ukraine, Nigeria and now Iraq. How about you do something constructive with your life and go down and enlist? Show them what they're doing wrong when they invade these places.

[Gandalf]

Very sound advice. If one wants these wars, then sign up for them and orchestrate them, but Lyle doesn't want any of that. I think most people are against war because they know the horror that it causes on both sides and these days the lies that the war starters are typically using to justify war. Only sociopaths shield themselves from the horror and lies whilst urging it on. The rest sign up because there are no prospects back home. 'Saddam had to go' is one we constantly hear, but these other people stay home, argue that they need their guns, and yet tolerate Bush and Obama, but Saddam had to go? It's an argument that makes no sense. Saddam did not try to change 4 dozen regimes since WW2. They have all these guns, but do nothing about the real global tyranny.

[IamInuit]

Its a lost cause. Just let them have at it. Its a cultural/tribal war that has went on long before Iraq ever became a country err puppet.

Doing the same thing over and over and over again and expecting different results is not reason, its the very definition of insanity.

[El Kabong]

Its a lost cause.

Well it is now....Mr. Peace Prize made sure of that

[Kirkland Laing]

Its a lost cause.

Well it is now....Mr. Peace Prize made sure of that

No he didn't. The withdrawl of all American forces by the end of 2012 was a signed and sealed deal before he took office. That's another of those inconvenient "facts" that you refuse to accept.

[IamInuit]

Its a lost cause.

Well it is now....Mr. Peace Prize made sure of that

You and I both know that these people could care less who the President is or what banner they wear. These people murder and kill their neighbours and then fry their dicks for supper.

Its time to just let the barbarians sort it out. The press should not even report on this shit and turn the cameras off and then check in after a few decades. Its almost physical proof for perpetual motion.

Democracy simply cannot be forced down peoples throats. We cant even sort out what it means in our own countries. Its not a solution for every political problem and is simply unacceptable for certain societies. We need to stay out of it period and wash our hands of it. Their system has not changed in 5000 years. The even emigrate to our countries to escape it and then attempt to embrace it.