Floyd's resume.

[Master]

Floyd could have fought Manny, JMM at the weight contracted, Hatton at light welter, Casamajor and Freitas. He also retired for a couple of years and he never fought abroad.

Why is it Floyd's fault those fights never happened? Other than the JMM one of course... do you REALLY think coming in on weight would have made a difference in the outcome?

The Ricky Hatton one always makes me laugh too, considering that Floyd isn't even a true WW anyway.
I've heard of weight cutting weakening fighters, but I've never heard the excuse that not having to cut weight weakened a fighter lol

Floyd haters will always go above and beyond the realms of logic.

If Floyd was not a true welter then why did he fight Hatton at welterweight? Floyd was a true welterweight that is the answer.

Why do you get hurt when people critique Floyds resume?

[Vendettos]

Crucify me if to you want but.....

.....he needs that Manny fight.

[goti71]

Crucify me if to you want but.....

.....he needs that Manny fight.

It wouldn't make much difference now.

Edit: I think Lara would get him more credit at this stage.

[La Cucaracha]

Tszyu at 140 would have been a nice addition

[Master]

Tszyu at 140 would have been a nice addition

You are right forgot that omission in Floyds career as Kostya Tszyu was clearly the man not Gatti. Remember Floyd blubbering like a little girl when he beat Arturo which was over the top from him.

[imp]

Floyd has 3 more fights for everyone to pick holes in.
He will never please everyone.
No boxer has ever pleased everyone.

[Master]

Floyd has 3 more fights for everyone to pick holes in.
He will never please everyone.
No boxer has ever pleased everyone.

True. Those holes look more like caves sometimes when he states he is the GOAT.

[La Cucaracha]

I would have liked:

Dorin (undefeated belt holder) or Spadafora (undefeated belt holder) over Sosa and Ndou at 135

Judah (who had beat Corley) Harris (undefated belt holder) and Tszyu (lineal champ) over Corley, Bruseles and Gatti at 140

Margarito and Spinks (before he lost to Judah) over Mitchell and Baldomir at 147

[Gandalf]

Baldomir, Gatti, Brussel sprout. These are prime reasons why I cannot take Floyd seriously and then there are the fights calling people out once or twice above their own weight class. Floyd has about 10 flaws in his record since becoming champ for the first time. He's not the only one, but Calzaghe doesn't claim to be the best ever. Mayweather is fraudulent in that regard. Even Khan did better with Maidana.

[bradlee180]

Yeah, obviously Floyd was good, nobody questions that, but just how good we'll never know because he avoided virtually all the best prime challenges from 2002 (post-Castillo) till 2011 (Victor Ortiz).

In those 8 years, the sole top prime dangerous guy he fought was Ricky Hatton.

During those 8 years, Floyd fought decent fighters, just not the elite fighters.
He probably would have beat most of those guys anyway, but speculating ain't doing.

[Bo-Bo24]

Floyd has 3 more fights for everyone to pick holes in.
He will never please everyone.
No boxer has ever pleased everyone.

True. Those holes look more like caves sometimes when he states he is the GOAT.

Very true, his resume is a great one, but to be the GOAT he needs an undisputed one which would of included a prime Manny and a few others as mentioned.

[Maravilla2012]

Even if almost everyone here thinks Margarito is shit when Floyd was offered 8 million to fight him (Floyd denied it) he was the most dangerous fighter in the division. That would have been a career high purse for him so it doesn't make much sense

[Master]

Even if almost everyone here thinks Margarito is shit when Floyd was offered 8 million to fight him (Floyd denied it) he was the most dangerous fighter in the division. That would have been a career high purse for him so it doesn't make much sense

Floyd got $8 million for fighting Baldimor who was the lineal welterweight champion at the time and Floyd was getting away from Arum. So I understand why Floyd would do what he did but never understood why he fought Judah who had already lost to Baldimor when he could have fought someone like Margarito or even Paul Williams.

[Beanflicker]

If Floyd was not a true welter then why did he fight Hatton at welterweight? Floyd was a true welterweight that is the answer.

Why do you get hurt when people critique Floyds resume?

I don't get hurt. If someone says something stupid, I refute it.

When people say that Hatton was somehow diminished or not at his best because they fought at 147 instead of 140, that's stupid. It's completely idiotic when you put it up against common boxing knowledge.

And as far as Floyd being a true WW, that simply isn't true. He's a true WW in the sense that he is naturally 147, but that's not how boxing works due to weight cutting. A true WW is not a 147lb guy. A true WW is around or exceeding 160lbs. This has been shown with basically every "same day weight" statistic that HBO or another network has shown. Floyd is routinely out-weighed by upwards of 10lbs pretty much every time he fights.

He was outweighed by Ricky Hatton on fight day as well.

[Beanflicker]

Yeah, obviously Floyd was good, nobody questions that, but just how good we'll never know because he avoided virtually all the best prime challenges from 2002 (post-Castillo) till 2011 (Victor Ortiz).

In those 8 years, the sole top prime dangerous guy he fought was Ricky Hatton.

During those 8 years, Floyd fought decent fighters, just not the elite fighters.
He probably would have beat most of those guys anyway, but speculating ain't doing.

Most of his opponents were just fine until he schooled them.

They were all either champs or top 10 fighters, so I don't know what your definition of "elite" is.