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    Atheism is not about faith it's about a lack of evidence and common sense that any of the 1000+ religions are correct about a divine creator. Science is constantly challenged, tested and advancing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Atheism is not about faith it's about a lack of evidence and common sense that any of the 1000+ religions are correct about a divine creator. Science is constantly challenged, tested and advancing.


    that statement in itself is a contradiction of its self and only goes to prove the existence of a god
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Atheism is not about faith it's about a lack of evidence and common sense that any of the 1000+ religions are correct about a divine creator. Science is constantly challenged, tested and advancing.
    Science is a theoretical work in progress, stating the conclusive non existence of any diety or creator goes way beyond that.

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    A supernatural being/diety comes from a belief in whichever religious tale you've bought. As an agnostic you believe the evidence of these thousands of gods is nonsense, right? These tales/beliefs are clearly man-made? But you can never say never...

    Athesim doesn't have to prove anything. It's based on learning and common sense. It's not about faith/belief.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    A supernatural being/diety comes from a belief in whichever religious tale you've bought. As an agnostic you believe the evidence of these thousands of gods is nonsense, right? These tales/beliefs are clearly man-made? But you can never say never...

    Athesim doesn't have to prove anything. It's based on learning and common sense. It's not about faith/belief.
    Atheism is the beleif that science is infalible and complete enough that you can make a dogmatic conclusion from it.

    You've said it yourself: science is always changing, how can it be infalable? Our scope and comprehension of science are nowhere near complete enough and probably never will be.

    It's very egocentric to presume that humans have the intellectual capacity to fully understand and explain existence.

    Faith in science is still faith.

    You're also a little off the mark about what being agnostic is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    A supernatural being/diety comes from a belief in whichever religious tale you've bought. As an agnostic you believe the evidence of these thousands of gods is nonsense, right? These tales/beliefs are clearly man-made? But you can never say never...

    Athesim doesn't have to prove anything. It's based on learning and common sense. It's not about faith/belief.
    Atheism is the beleif that science is infalible and complete enough that you can make a dogmatic conclusion from it.

    You've said it yourself: science is always changing, how can it be infalable? Our scope and comprehension of science are nowhere near complete enough and probably never will be.

    It's very egocentric to presume that humans have the intellectual capacity to fully understand and explain existence.

    Faith in science is still faith.

    You're also a little off the mark about what being agnostic is.
    Faith is good opinion of God. There rest are hopes, dreams, and illusions
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    Webster and Oxford might disagree with you there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    A supernatural being/diety comes from a belief in whichever religious tale you've bought. As an agnostic you believe the evidence of these thousands of gods is nonsense, right? These tales/beliefs are clearly man-made? But you can never say never...

    Athesim doesn't have to prove anything. It's based on learning and common sense. It's not about faith/belief.
    Atheism is the beleif that science is infalible and complete enough that you can make a dogmatic conclusion from it.

    You've said it yourself: science is always changing, how can it be infalable? Our scope and comprehension of science are nowhere near complete enough and probably never will be.

    It's very egocentric to presume that humans have the intellectual capacity to fully understand and explain existence.

    Faith in science is still faith.

    You're also a little off the mark about what being agnostic is.
    Science is infallible? I never realised this was claimed, I thought it was the exact opposite. I thought it was constantly trying to discover how stuff works.

    Faith is not required to dismiss supernatural beings from stories.
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    Yes! The very essesence of science is that it is fallable...
    To base a dogmatic beleif on something that is fallable requires you to have faith in it.

    Not placing belief in a Deity or believing there is a no Deity in existence at all are very different things, one requires FAITH in the scope of Science, the other does not, I'll let you figure out which.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Yes! The very essesence of science is that it is fallable...
    To base a dogmatic beleif on something that is fallable requires you to have faith in it.

    Not placing belief in a Deity or believing there is a no Deity in existence at all are very different things, one requires FAITH in the scope of Science, the other does not, I'll let you figure out which.
    I'm not sure what you mean by "dogmatic belief?"

    Can anyone prove there wasn't a supernatural creator? No.

    Does science prove how things work? Yes. That is a fact not faith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fenster View Post
    Atheism is not about faith it's about a lack of evidence and common sense that any of the 1000+ religions are correct about a divine creator. Science is constantly challenged, tested and advancing.

    Science as itto is implemented across the world also has its spectrum of beliefs, agendas just like any other group.

    And plenty of evidence out their to support the above assertion.

    Thats not to say good science being implementeda doesn't happen, dont kid yourself that it is squeaky clean and faultless

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