World Cup 2014

[armin]

true

we piss on them at snooker and darts

And Rugby. Cricket. Cycling. Boxing. Loads of Olympic sports. Had more Formula One world champs than them (more than any nation in fact).

In fact Football is all they have over us I'd say.

and that's the one that hurts the most.............

This is true.

That's why it colours our view of all sport.

One day we'll get in right in football. In my lifetime I hope.

I'm pretty sure the germans consistenly beat yall in the medal count in the olympics...

[ryanman]

true

we piss on them at snooker and darts

And Rugby. Cricket. Cycling. Boxing. Loads of Olympic sports. Had more Formula One world champs than them (more than any nation in fact).

In fact Football is all they have over us I'd say.

and that's the one that hurts the most.............

This is true.

That's why it colours our view of all sport.

One day we'll get in right in football. In my lifetime I hope.

I'm pretty sure the germans consistenly beat yall in the medal count in the olympics...

Erm,

London 2012-
Britain 29 Golds 65 Medals
Germany 11 Golds 44 Medals


Beijing 2008 -
Britain 19 Golds 47 medals
Germany 16 Golds 41 Medals


All time -
Britain 236 golds, 780 Medals
Germany 174 Golds 573 Medals

[Master]

Argentina v Germany final on Sunday.

[ryanman]

Argentina v Germany final on Sunday.

You'd think Germany, but seen too much football to be too confident. I'd rather Germany win though.

[armin]

true

we piss on them at snooker and darts

And Rugby. Cricket. Cycling. Boxing. Loads of Olympic sports. Had more Formula One world champs than them (more than any nation in fact).

In fact Football is all they have over us I'd say.

and that's the one that hurts the most.............

This is true.

That's why it colours our view of all sport.

One day we'll get in right in football. In my lifetime I hope.

I'm pretty sure the germans consistenly beat yall in the medal count in the olympics...

Erm,

London 2012-
Britain 29 Golds 65 Medals
Germany 11 Golds 44 Medals


Beijing 2008 -
Britain 19 Golds 47 medals
Germany 16 Golds 41 Medals


All time -
Britain 236 golds, 780 Medals
Germany 174 Golds 573 Medals

if you look you pretty much picked the only two olympics in recent memory where Britain won more medals, usually it is not even close

here are the results since reunification
92 germany 32 golds total 82
Britain 5 golds total 20

96 germany 20 golds total 65
Britain 1 gold total 15

2000 germany 13 golds total 56
Britain 11 golds total 28

2004 germany 13 golds total 49
Britain 9 golds total 30

don't know where you got that 174# for germany since just the ones up there listed is like 100+ medals for germany, then you throw in the time they were east/west germany...yeah don't think its even close.

To add I went back to 1988 if you combine east and west germany they have 48 golds just at those games and a total of 142, Britain had 5 golds and 24 total. You were saying?

[ryanman]

true

we piss on them at snooker and darts

And Rugby. Cricket. Cycling. Boxing. Loads of Olympic sports. Had more Formula One world champs than them (more than any nation in fact).

In fact Football is all they have over us I'd say.

and that's the one that hurts the most.............

This is true.

That's why it colours our view of all sport.

One day we'll get in right in football. In my lifetime I hope.

I'm pretty sure the germans consistenly beat yall in the medal count in the olympics...

Erm,

London 2012-
Britain 29 Golds 65 Medals
Germany 11 Golds 44 Medals


Beijing 2008 -
Britain 19 Golds 47 medals
Germany 16 Golds 41 Medals


All time -
Britain 236 golds, 780 Medals
Germany 174 Golds 573 Medals

if you look you pretty much picked the only two olympics in recent memory where Britain won more medals, usually it is not even close

here are the results since reunification
92 germany 32 golds total 82
Britain 5 golds total 20

96 germany 20 golds total 65
Britain 1 gold total 15

2000 germany 13 golds total 56
Britain 11 golds total 28

2004 germany 13 golds total 49
Britain 9 golds total 30

don't know where you got that 174# for germany since just the ones up there listed is like 100+ medals for germany, then you throw in the time they were east/west germany...yeah don't think its even close.

To add I went back to 1988 if you combine east and west germany they have 48 golds just at those games and a total of 142, Britain had 5 golds and 24 total. You were saying?

Well I didn't pick two random games, I took the two most RECENT...

I wasn't saying Britain has always had the upper hand, but lately we have. And that won't change any time soon. Their trend is very much downwards and ours is very much upwards.
We were utter shit in the 80s/90s but have consistently got better and better.
Only US and China above us at 2012, and 4th in 2008.

Also, not that this is my point, but you can't count East and West Germany together.
That's two teams. And given you only have a finite number of entries per event for each team it's a bit of an advantage having two teams.

In summary, in terms of the Olympics, Germany used to be better, now Britain is.

[erics44]

who gives a fuck about the olympics

[ryanman]

who gives a fuck about the olympics

Being as its the second most watched sporting event in the world I'd say quite a few.

You into any sports other than football or boxing?

Plenty of good sports out there, why limit yourself.

[Master]

who gives a fuck about the olympics

Being as its the second most watched sporting event in the world I'd say quite a few.

You into any sports other than football or boxing?

Plenty of good sports out there, why limit yourself.

Eric is right we do not care until 2016.

[erics44]

who gives a fuck about the olympics

Being as its the second most watched sporting event in the world I'd say quite a few.

You into any sports other than football or boxing?

Plenty of good sports out there, why limit yourself.

alright alright


what do you suggest I watch?

[armin]

true

we piss on them at snooker and darts

And Rugby. Cricket. Cycling. Boxing. Loads of Olympic sports. Had more Formula One world champs than them (more than any nation in fact).

In fact Football is all they have over us I'd say.

and that's the one that hurts the most.............

This is true.

That's why it colours our view of all sport.

One day we'll get in right in football. In my lifetime I hope.

I'm pretty sure the germans consistenly beat yall in the medal count in the olympics...

Erm,

London 2012-
Britain 29 Golds 65 Medals
Germany 11 Golds 44 Medals


Beijing 2008 -
Britain 19 Golds 47 medals
Germany 16 Golds 41 Medals


All time -
Britain 236 golds, 780 Medals
Germany 174 Golds 573 Medals

if you look you pretty much picked the only two olympics in recent memory where Britain won more medals, usually it is not even close

here are the results since reunification
92 germany 32 golds total 82
Britain 5 golds total 20

96 germany 20 golds total 65
Britain 1 gold total 15

2000 germany 13 golds total 56
Britain 11 golds total 28

2004 germany 13 golds total 49
Britain 9 golds total 30

don't know where you got that 174# for germany since just the ones up there listed is like 100+ medals for germany, then you throw in the time they were east/west germany...yeah don't think its even close.

To add I went back to 1988 if you combine east and west germany they have 48 golds just at those games and a total of 142, Britain had 5 golds and 24 total. You were saying?

Well I didn't pick two random games, I took the two most RECENT...

I wasn't saying Britain has always had the upper hand, but lately we have. And that won't change any time soon. Their trend is very much downwards and ours is very much upwards.
We were utter shit in the 80s/90s but have consistently got better and better.
Only US and China above us at 2012, and 4th in 2008.

Also, not that this is my point, but you can't count East and West Germany together.
That's two teams. And given you only have a finite number of entries per event for each team it's a bit of an advantage having two teams.

In summary, in terms of the Olympics, Germany used to be better, now Britain is.

You said in fact football was the only thing they had over you, which clearly has not been the case, the only two times you beat them in the olympics in recent memory are the two most recent games, one of which Britain was the host of which seems to inflate the number of medals won for some reason. Here are the numbers from 1968 of just West Germany, leaving East Germany out.

1968
WGermany 5 gold 26 total
G Britain 5 gold 18 total

1972
WGermany 13 gold 40 total
G Britain 4 gold 18 total

1976
WGermany 10 gold 39 total
G Britain 3 gold 13 total

1980
West Germany did not participate

1984
W German 17 gold 59 total
G Britain 5 gold 37 total

So I think my argument of they consistenly beat ya'll in the olympics holds seeing as even West Germany by themselves always tended to win out, perhaps I should have said usually due to them losing out the last 2, you are right tho that Britain's trend has been up and Germany's down.

[palmerq]

The gerries certainly used to give blighty a beating in the olympic medal count but recently that has changed around, I would guess due to the olympics being held in london, when a country hosts an event like this they always pump a lot of money into sports development in the many years leading up to it, so it is no surprise to see blighty beating the gerries in 2008 before the london olympics, these tings are very well planned out and cost a lot :S.... Britain certainly seems to have a very good system right now due to this funding so the rest of europe(bar the russian dopers) are on the back foot for sure and it will be up to them to catch up !....

anway as for the world cup... Lets say messi puts in a performance like maradona did in the 86 final, aka getting totally marked out the game by an intellignet team but still putting up a very good assist that is a big help in winning the world cup... How does this effect the way people see messi? A world cup winner but wasnt the real deciding factor in teh final but certainly had a big hand in it ? all hypothetical questions(I also think the gerries will bash them!)

[ryanman]

true

we piss on them at snooker and darts

And Rugby. Cricket. Cycling. Boxing. Loads of Olympic sports. Had more Formula One world champs than them (more than any nation in fact).

In fact Football is all they have over us I'd say.

and that's the one that hurts the most.............

This is true.

That's why it colours our view of all sport.

One day we'll get in right in football. In my lifetime I hope.

I'm pretty sure the germans consistenly beat yall in the medal count in the olympics...

Erm,

London 2012-
Britain 29 Golds 65 Medals
Germany 11 Golds 44 Medals


Beijing 2008 -
Britain 19 Golds 47 medals
Germany 16 Golds 41 Medals


All time -
Britain 236 golds, 780 Medals
Germany 174 Golds 573 Medals

if you look you pretty much picked the only two olympics in recent memory where Britain won more medals, usually it is not even close

here are the results since reunification
92 germany 32 golds total 82
Britain 5 golds total 20

96 germany 20 golds total 65
Britain 1 gold total 15

2000 germany 13 golds total 56
Britain 11 golds total 28

2004 germany 13 golds total 49
Britain 9 golds total 30

don't know where you got that 174# for germany since just the ones up there listed is like 100+ medals for germany, then you throw in the time they were east/west germany...yeah don't think its even close.

To add I went back to 1988 if you combine east and west germany they have 48 golds just at those games and a total of 142, Britain had 5 golds and 24 total. You were saying?

Well I didn't pick two random games, I took the two most RECENT...

I wasn't saying Britain has always had the upper hand, but lately we have. And that won't change any time soon. Their trend is very much downwards and ours is very much upwards.
We were utter shit in the 80s/90s but have consistently got better and better.
Only US and China above us at 2012, and 4th in 2008.

Also, not that this is my point, but you can't count East and West Germany together.
That's two teams. And given you only have a finite number of entries per event for each team it's a bit of an advantage having two teams.

In summary, in terms of the Olympics, Germany used to be better, now Britain is.

You said in fact football was the only thing they had over you, which clearly has not been the case, the only two times you beat them in the olympics in recent memory are the two most recent games, one of which Britain was the host of which seems to inflate the number of medals won for some reason. Here are the numbers from 1968 of just West Germany, leaving East Germany out.

1968
WGermany 5 gold 26 total
G Britain 5 gold 18 total

1972
WGermany 13 gold 40 total
G Britain 4 gold 18 total

1976
WGermany 10 gold 39 total
G Britain 3 gold 13 total

1980
West Germany did not participate

1984
W German 17 gold 59 total
G Britain 5 gold 37 total

So I think my argument of they consistenly beat ya'll in the olympics holds seeing as even West Germany by themselves always tended to win out, perhaps I should have said usually due to them losing out the last 2, you are right tho that Britain's trend has been up and Germany's down.

Agreed, They did used to beat Britain consistantly. But not now.
Britains upward trend comes from the influx of lottery money funding following the disaster of the 1996 games.
The trend will continue for a good few games yet. Then after that who knows.

Anyway, this has sprawled out a bit.