Lets talk running...

[imp]

After watching the lara fight I believe he only just won on the scorecards but then at the same time he did alot of running and canelo showed great bodywork.

1.How do you define running in the ring?

2. Who were the greatest runners of all time?

3. They say floyd runs alot but is this different compared to laras running, and could lara have just taken a few more aggressive steps to seal the deal against the golden nugget or was this about throwing more accurate power punches?

[Abelardus]

After watching the lara fight I believe he only just won on the scorecards but then at the same time he did alot of running and canelo showed great bodywork.

1.How do you define running in the ring?

2. Who were the greatest runners of all time?

3. They say floyd runs alot but is this different compared to laras running, and could lara have just taken a few more aggressive steps to seal the deal against the golden nugget or was this about throwing more accurate power punches?

I am one that usually defends "runners". I mean you have the ring to move around in it. There is a reason it isn't 4 feet by 4 feet. I usually defend defensive fighters specially like floyd. I don't consider him a runner at all. But I think we can all agree Lara took running to a WHOLE NEW LEVEL! lol I was watching the fight thinking I have never seen someone run like that. It literally got to the point where I feel he was scared to exchange and feared canelos power. I am happy canelo got the win. Lara needs to do more.

[Master]

I remember Oscar running against Tito and losing the fight.

[Abelardus]

I remember Oscar running against Tito and losing the fight.

Ya, the last 4 rounds. But took Tito to school the rounds before that and I even think he still one at least 2 of the last 4 and Tito hitting nothing. Also the disappointment in Titos face and everyone else in his corners face cuz they knew he had lost. Oscar did not run like Lara ran.

[beenKOed]

I call it retreating and it's OK if you throw scoring punches while you retreat.
Ali was a master at scoring while he gave away ground, especially early in his career. I can still see that prick leading guys around the ring peppering them with with every punch he had and talking trash to them at the same time. Man, that guy used to piss me off.

[IamInuit]

Look this running crap is over the top. Boxers and technicians are penalized for using boxing and technique while plodding neanderthals get points for plodding forward. Thats junk science not sweet science. You dont have to sit and trade in a phone booth. They have a ring to use it and the idea is to hit and not get it and that entails using the damn ring. I swear to god that this sport is devolving at a rate that is unprecedented.

Bring out the freakin togas

[Spicoli]

Running is mental as well as physical. Inactivity, unwillingness or smoke n' mirrors with the hands etc. Guys who throw a lead literally designed to get them to another part of the ring on follow-through momentum. Or

[dazednconfused]

I woulda just went and stood in the corner and let the chicken shit come to me.

[Abelardus]

I woulda just went and stood in the corner and let the chicken shit come to me.

Hahahaha I said the something

[beenKOed]

I woulda just went and stood in the corner and let the chicken shit come to me.

The ref would have given you a couple of warnings and then DQ'ed you.
Retreating is OK, refusing to fight isn't.

[greynotsoold]

Running is mental as well as physical. Inactivity, unwillingness or smoke n' mirrors with the hands etc. Guys who throw a lead literally designed to get them to another part of the ring on follow-through momentum. Or

Marquez wanted so bad for gainer to throw something he could counter, he did everything but throw the left hand for him. And Gainer fought an absolute war with Kevin Kelly.

[Ron Swanson]

Look this running crap is over the top. Boxers and technicians are penalized for using boxing and technique while plodding neanderthals get points for plodding forward. Thats junk science not sweet science. You dont have to sit and trade in a phone booth. They have a ring to use it and the idea is to hit and not get it and that entails using the damn ring. I swear to god that this sport is devolving at a rate that is unprecedented.

Bring out the freakin togas

Preach on. The supposed boxing fan of today should quit pretending, skip the matches and go to a cock fight.

[dazednconfused]

I woulda just went and stood in the corner and let the chicken shit come to me.

The ref would have given you a couple of warnings and then DQ'ed you.
Retreating is OK, refusing to fight isn't.

ok then i would shadow box and wave him in, therefore proving he was the one refusing to fight

[Maravilla2012]

Look this running crap is over the top. Boxers and technicians are penalized for using boxing and technique while plodding neanderthals get points for plodding forward. Thats junk science not sweet science. You dont have to sit and trade in a phone booth. They have a ring to use it and the idea is to hit and not get it and that entails using the damn ring. I swear to god that this sport is devolving at a rate that is unprecedented.

Bring out the freakin togas

Preach on. The supposed boxing fan of today should quit pretending, skip the matches and go to a cock fight.

I agree with you guys. The best boxers with the best skill get shunned while fighters who love to eat punches like Provo and Rios get all the credit. Bullshit. I appreciate a good war but what Lara and Floyd and Rigo do is what boxing is. Hit and don't get hit.

[IamInuit]

Look this running crap is over the top. Boxers and technicians are penalized for using boxing and technique while plodding neanderthals get points for plodding forward. Thats junk science not sweet science. You dont have to sit and trade in a phone booth. They have a ring to use it and the idea is to hit and not get it and that entails using the damn ring. I swear to god that this sport is devolving at a rate that is unprecedented.

Bring out the freakin togas

Preach on. The supposed boxing fan of today should quit pretending, skip the matches and go to a cock fight.

Imagine Pep or Locche fighting today? They wouldn't win a fight. To much use of the ring.Leonard could not fight another round in the Hagler fight. His legs were gone. Leonard had ring size written into the contract. Imagine if Hagler got the 117/111 card? That would not have happened because it was Leonard who was the "star" so his "running" was different lol.

Ring size to anyone who has boxed or followed the sport is a big deal and if the reasons for that need to be explained then suffice it is to say that the person having it explained to them might want to start following another sport. The difference for instance between an 18 foot ring and a 20 is night and day. Fights can have dramatically different conclusions because of that two feet. Only an Alvarez lap dog would accuse Lara of running or being a chickenshit.

Its lunacy not to expect a boxer/counter puncher who operates out of a defensive set not to use the ring. How about we just ditch the thing and bring in a 4 x 8 like this

Tie a string around it and if a guy breaks it he's disqualified.