Lara/Alvarez scorecards thread

[armin]

If you are going to paint it as you did it is just as easy to say only a third scored it for Canelo. Either way it was a close fight and ultimately 30% approval is a telling sign that you didn't win the fight. Fighters say things before any fight and that is no justification for avoiding a rematch. On the basis of being unable to win, then Canelo too doesn't deserve a payday and moreso considering that the card that ultimately decided it was scored on the moon. People want to make excuses without facing up to simple facts. Canelo was outlanded, for long stretches couldn't fight his fight, and then wants to walk away from a rematch because his opponent needs to 'learn to fight?' Canelo is a bit like Chavez Jnr. It all gets given too easily and too many excuses are made. Take your rematch and win the fight. Even Mayweather rematches close fights immediately.

Where was this magical world where Canelo was outlanded for LONG stretches at a time , outlanded by 1 or 2 jabs a round a 10 punches total in fight isnt shit to me, if the punches are that close and one lands a significantly larger amount of power shots I'll tend to go with the guy landing the power shots. A third thought Canelo won, a third a draw, a third Lara hence no robbery or controvery in my mind even, I didnt paint it a certain way its MATH! I simply don't think there is any controversy in the result and not really invested in either fighter. also do you really want to see that fight again

[Gandalf]

If you are going to paint it as you did it is just as easy to say only a third scored it for Canelo. Either way it was a close fight and ultimately 30% approval is a telling sign that you didn't win the fight. Fighters say things before any fight and that is no justification for avoiding a rematch. On the basis of being unable to win, then Canelo too doesn't deserve a payday and moreso considering that the card that ultimately decided it was scored on the moon. People want to make excuses without facing up to simple facts. Canelo was outlanded, for long stretches couldn't fight his fight, and then wants to walk away from a rematch because his opponent needs to 'learn to fight?' Canelo is a bit like Chavez Jnr. It all gets given too easily and too many excuses are made. Take your rematch and win the fight. Even Mayweather rematches close fights immediately.

Where was this magical world where Canelo was outlanded for LONG stretches at a time , outlanded by 1 or 2 jabs a round a 10 punches total in fight isnt shit to me, if the punches are that close and one lands a significantly larger amount of power shots I'll tend to go with the guy landing the power shots. A third thought Canelo won, a third a draw, a third Lara hence no robbery or controvery in my mind even, I didnt paint it a certain way its MATH! I simply don't think there is any controversy in the result and not really invested in either fighter. also do you really want to see that fight again

Canelo outlanded Lara in 3 rounds only. He clearly controlled very little except for that middle period where he did appear to be doing better. Overall Lara controlled the pace of the fight and clearly outlanded Alvarez thus scoring rounds. Using your math, you have a close fight with many thinking it a draw. When a fight is neck and neck it is correct to have a another one to see if the fighters can draw some distance or settle it. Using prefight disrespect as a justification for avoiding a rematch in a neck and neck fight is simply not a very good observation. It is a distraction.

It wasn't a terribly exciting fight, but I don't think Mayweather fights are either. Still, at least that man gives rematches after his close fights. Martinez/Williams.....rematch! Taylor/Hopkins....rematch! It's about doing the right thing.

[armin]

I give up and am removing myself from this thread didnt realize that landing ten jabs more overall in a fight is better than being outlanded in powershots by like 25 or whatever it was.

[521Joe]

Had to go back and copy my other post

I had the fight 116-112 for Canelo. Lara was retreating the WHOLE fight, not once did he come forward. I was very dissapointed in Lara because this probably the worst I have seen him fight and it just happened to be on the biggest stage of his career. He fought as though this was the amateurs or the Olympics it was a terrible effort. As far as everyone saying oh he out landed Canelo it was by 10 punches 107 to 97(which basically means 9 punches a rd for lara and 8 punches a rd for Canelo) and Canelo landed the harder shots with an 88 to 52 advantage in power shots. Anyone who understands boxing knows that there is a BIG difference in throwing a punch stepping back as opposed to throwing a punch stepping forward. Lara was retreating the whole fight and on the defensive, Canelo was coming forward the whole fight and was on the attack, and in a fight where there is not much action to score most judges will score the rd or fight for the Aggressor which was Canelo.

[ruthless rocco]

Lara 1,3,10,11,12
Canelo 2,4,5,6,7,8,9

I saw rounds 6,11&12 pretty close. Any of them could have gone either way depending on the judge's view from ringside and their scoring preferences.