GGG v. Kid Chocolate

[cyclone]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

[Silkeyjoe]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

[cyclone]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

GG's defense has more holes than an Iraqi oil field.

Andre Ward MADE Golovkin's trainer stop saying he'll fight anybody.

[Rantcatrat]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

GG's defense has more holes than an Iraqi oil field.

Andre Ward MADE Golovkin's trainer stop saying he'll fight anybody.

@cyclone - I read a pretty good article here by Stephen Edwards where he points out why GGG's style doesn't call for expert defense. He says that "his defense is good enough for how he fights. An imposing puncher like GGG does not need rapid or freakish head movement. If he did that, it would take him out of position and tire him out. Look at Julio Cesar Chavez or Joe Louis's defense. They calmly parried punches and used their presence to intimidate fighters." Are you sure his defensive faults merit such criticism?

Also, he can't duck a fighter in the weight class above him. Floyd didn't duck Sergio Martinez. Ward hasn't ducked Kovalev. Would it improve GGG's legacy to beat Ward more than it would to beat Kid Chocolate? Absolutely, as it would have for Floyd's legacy to beat Sergio more than beating Maidana.

Why aren't you impressed with GGG? He hits like a mule. He provides highlight reel knockouts in every fight. He's also willing to fight anyone in his division.

I'm not jumping on his bandwagon and saying he would beat Hopkins or Ward when his best wins are against Macklin and Geale. That's a ridiculous overstatement when he hasn't even fought above 160 or against someone remotely on their level. On the other hand, given the way he took care of Macklin and Geale, I'd be surprised if anyone at 160, other than Floyd, could beat him, and I don't think that's overrating him. Do you?

[Master]

It is the best fight out there and it forces Cotto to have to fight the winner. GGG batters Quillen but in a entertaining fight.

[ykdadamaja]

Quillin beats GGG in a SD... GGG has not tasted power. Power that can actually land sensibly. Stevens had power, but he couldn't land. Quillin will land against GGG and it will hurt.... as someone said, if Geale had any power we would be saying prayers for GGG now.

Quillin will hit GGG, cleanly and very, very hard and then GGG will "box" for the rest of the fight- and then lose because people would take that as GGG running and shrinking from a fight.

[Dark Lord Al]

For me GGG will have a special career. Watch this space.
Kid Chocolate will end up melted chocolate.

[Rantcatrat]

Quillin beats GGG in a SD... GGG has not tasted power. Power that can actually land sensibly. Stevens had power, but he couldn't land. Quillin will land against GGG and it will hurt.... as someone said, if Geale had any power we would be saying prayers for GGG now.

Quillin will hit GGG, cleanly and very, very hard and then GGG will "box" for the rest of the fight- and then lose because people would take that as GGG running and shrinking from a fight.

Interesting point of view. I think Quillin has a shot too. I'm not sure if he wins, but he's got the power and length to possibly keep GGG off him. On the other hand, GGG has the experience and technique to close the distance and get to Quillin. It would be a good fight.

[La Cucaracha]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

Geale and Macklin were both rated within the top ten. Geale would be the best he's fought? Geale ain't nothing special but he was definitely rated higher than Ouma

So it's fine for Ward to say he doesn't need to move up but not Golovkin Ward ain't even fighting at this stage

Golovkin knocks out Quillin

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Quillin could well have too much length and athleticism for GGG to deal with.

[brocktonblockbust]

Woold kid chocolate be able to slice and dice this Central Asian charlatan?

[p4pking]

For me, Quillin and Jacobs is a toss up, so an emphatic win from either would be a statement and return to form. The winner would clearly be GGGs best challenger at 160, since Cotto and Canelo only fight in the 157.5 pound division or whatever.

[Silkeyjoe]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

GG's defense has more holes than an Iraqi oil field.

Andre Ward MADE Golovkin's trainer stop saying he'll fight anybody.

So if the fight is made youd give me even money on GG? Can I have 10k on it

[Primo Carnera]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

GG's defense has more holes than an Iraqi oil field.

Andre Ward MADE Golovkin's trainer stop saying he'll fight anybody.

Yeah , cos Ward has shown everybody since what he's capable of in the ring , hasn't he?

[Ron Swanson]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

GG's defense has more holes than an Iraqi oil field.

Andre Ward MADE Golovkin's trainer stop saying he'll fight anybody.

Yeah , cos Ward has shown everybody since what he's capable of in the ring , hasn't he?

It doesn't matter what Ward has done. What matters is GGGs team made 1000 excuses not to fight. There is no denying they made excuse after excuse. I mean EVERY fighter tries to fight the bigger names because it means bigger paydays, that's why everyone wants Floyd and Pac. GGGs people claimed GGG needed to become a bigger name, it's laughable. Then when he did become a bigger name they said he was too big a name. Even though he was still cashing smaller checks!! And his claims of being too small, well he was willing to go to 168 in 2011 for Steiglitz, but he's a small middleweight when it comes to Ward. He was willing to go to 168 for Chavez, but he's a small middleweight when it comes to Ward. He was willing to go to 168 for Froch, but he's a small middleweight when it comes to Ward. They asked Ward to cut 8 pounds and take a paycut FFS. If you can't admit they did everything to avoid Ward you are simply full of shit.

Ward has wasted his career, that is undeniable. What else is undeniable is GGGs people avoided Ward like the plague. I mean when it was proposed it was 10 excuses and maybe in 2013, then it was 10 more excuses and maybe in 2014, well in the middle of 2014 it went to maybe in 2016. Seriously, I'm not making that up. It's so ridiculous it sounds made up but no, they expect people to believe GGG has so many good fights lined up that the one fight people are talking about can be pushed off for at least a year and a half hahaha. Good luck with the excuses and the fictional fight against Canelo/Cotto winner GGG since theyboth have rematch clauses. But team GGG already knew that, we all knew that, all the talk is just BS