GGG v. Kid Chocolate

[cyclone]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

GG's defense has more holes than an Iraqi oil field.

Andre Ward MADE Golovkin's trainer stop saying he'll fight anybody.

[Rantcatrat]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

GG's defense has more holes than an Iraqi oil field.

Andre Ward MADE Golovkin's trainer stop saying he'll fight anybody.

@cyclone - I read a pretty good article here by Stephen Edwards where he points out why GGG's style doesn't call for expert defense. He says that "his defense is good enough for how he fights. An imposing puncher like GGG does not need rapid or freakish head movement. If he did that, it would take him out of position and tire him out. Look at Julio Cesar Chavez or Joe Louis's defense. They calmly parried punches and used their presence to intimidate fighters." Are you sure his defensive faults merit such criticism?

Also, he can't duck a fighter in the weight class above him. Floyd didn't duck Sergio Martinez. Ward hasn't ducked Kovalev. Would it improve GGG's legacy to beat Ward more than it would to beat Kid Chocolate? Absolutely, as it would have for Floyd's legacy to beat Sergio more than beating Maidana.

Why aren't you impressed with GGG? He hits like a mule. He provides highlight reel knockouts in every fight. He's also willing to fight anyone in his division.

I'm not jumping on his bandwagon and saying he would beat Hopkins or Ward when his best wins are against Macklin and Geale. That's a ridiculous overstatement when he hasn't even fought above 160 or against someone remotely on their level. On the other hand, given the way he took care of Macklin and Geale, I'd be surprised if anyone at 160, other than Floyd, could beat him, and I don't think that's overrating him. Do you?

[Master]

It is the best fight out there and it forces Cotto to have to fight the winner. GGG batters Quillen but in a entertaining fight.

[ykdadamaja]

Quillin beats GGG in a SD... GGG has not tasted power. Power that can actually land sensibly. Stevens had power, but he couldn't land. Quillin will land against GGG and it will hurt.... as someone said, if Geale had any power we would be saying prayers for GGG now.

Quillin will hit GGG, cleanly and very, very hard and then GGG will "box" for the rest of the fight- and then lose because people would take that as GGG running and shrinking from a fight.

[Dark Lord Al]

For me GGG will have a special career. Watch this space.
Kid Chocolate will end up melted chocolate.

[mikeeod]

GGG destroys Quillin. Hits him with one good shot, Quillin gets on the bike, becomes exhausted, and is destroyed late. Quillin has no chance and if the odds are anywhere near 50/50, I'm betting HUGE on this fight. If I get good odds on stoppage by GGG, I'm betting on that. Quillin has natural talent but the wrong mindset and not enough depth to win this one.

[Rantcatrat]

Quillin beats GGG in a SD... GGG has not tasted power. Power that can actually land sensibly. Stevens had power, but he couldn't land. Quillin will land against GGG and it will hurt.... as someone said, if Geale had any power we would be saying prayers for GGG now.

Quillin will hit GGG, cleanly and very, very hard and then GGG will "box" for the rest of the fight- and then lose because people would take that as GGG running and shrinking from a fight.

Interesting point of view. I think Quillin has a shot too. I'm not sure if he wins, but he's got the power and length to possibly keep GGG off him. On the other hand, GGG has the experience and technique to close the distance and get to Quillin. It would be a good fight.

[ykdadamaja]

Quillin beats GGG in a SD... GGG has not tasted power. Power that can actually land sensibly. Stevens had power, but he couldn't land. Quillin will land against GGG and it will hurt.... as someone said, if Geale had any power we would be saying prayers for GGG now.

Quillin will hit GGG, cleanly and very, very hard and then GGG will "box" for the rest of the fight- and then lose because people would take that as GGG running and shrinking from a fight.

Interesting point of view. I think Quillin has a shot too. I'm not sure if he wins, but he's got the power and length to possibly keep GGG off him. On the other hand, GGG has the experience and technique to close the distance and get to Quillin. It would be a good fight.

Quillin is no Geale. And while Stevens was stopped, he wasn't knocked out cleanly- he gassed after the accumulation. Quillin has more experience and more durable than Stevens is.

How will GGG respond when Quillin lands? The other key question is how often will GGG be able to land on Quillin to wear Quillin down- Quillin will be harder to hit than Stevens and Geale.

[Rantcatrat]

Quillin beats GGG in a SD... GGG has not tasted power. Power that can actually land sensibly. Stevens had power, but he couldn't land. Quillin will land against GGG and it will hurt.... as someone said, if Geale had any power we would be saying prayers for GGG now.

Quillin will hit GGG, cleanly and very, very hard and then GGG will "box" for the rest of the fight- and then lose because people would take that as GGG running and shrinking from a fight.

Interesting point of view. I think Quillin has a shot too. I'm not sure if he wins, but he's got the power and length to possibly keep GGG off him. On the other hand, GGG has the experience and technique to close the distance and get to Quillin. It would be a good fight.

Quillin is no Geale. And while Stevens was stopped, he wasn't knocked out cleanly- he gassed after the accumulation. Quillin has more experience and more durable than Stevens is.

How will GGG respond when Quillin lands? The other key question is how often will GGG be able to land on Quillin to wear Quillin down- Quillin will be harder to hit than Stevens and Geale.

Stevens has a good chin though and Kid Chocolate's is average. Also, Quillin's defense isn't as good as Geale's, but more important, he isn't a lateral mover. Rather, he stands and trades. On the other hand, I'm not sure how GGG will respond when Quillin lands and Quillin will land at least once. Everyone else has. With that said, Quillin has ridden pretty high on his size and speed and I don't know if those attributes are enough to beat GGG. I'm also a bit underwhelmed with his choice of opponents. Say what you want about GGG's level of opponents, but Kid Chocolate's are even worse recently. There are no Macklin or Geale's on his CV since he got the title. In fact, his best opponent was former-title holder, N'Jikam. That makes me question how confident his team is in his ability. By contrast, at least GGG's opponents have got progressively better, from Proksa to Geale. Lastly, Kid Chocolate is not an active fighter. He fights maybe twice a year and GGG fights at least 4 times a year.

[La Cucaracha]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

Geale and Macklin were both rated within the top ten. Geale would be the best he's fought? Geale ain't nothing special but he was definitely rated higher than Ouma

So it's fine for Ward to say he doesn't need to move up but not Golovkin Ward ain't even fighting at this stage

Golovkin knocks out Quillin

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Quillin could well have too much length and athleticism for GGG to deal with.

[brocktonblockbust]

Woold kid chocolate be able to slice and dice this Central Asian charlatan?

[p4pking]

For me, Quillin and Jacobs is a toss up, so an emphatic win from either would be a statement and return to form. The winner would clearly be GGGs best challenger at 160, since Cotto and Canelo only fight in the 157.5 pound division or whatever.

[Silkeyjoe]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

GG's defense has more holes than an Iraqi oil field.

Andre Ward MADE Golovkin's trainer stop saying he'll fight anybody.

So if the fight is made youd give me even money on GG? Can I have 10k on it

[Primo Carnera]

Kid Chocolate, 30, a big, strong middleweight with vaunted punching power and a big win against N'Jikam. GGG, 32, also, a strong middleweight, although not as big as GGG, with big wins coming against Geale, Macklin and Stevens. How does it play out?

Until saturday I thought GG was too much for Quillan.

Now

I can't tell.

If Geale had any power GG would be in our prayers.
If Winky Wright had any power Quillan would be learning how to tie his shoes all over again.
Right now it's a 50 50 fight.

50-50? Odd because no sensible person would give even money on GG

No sensible person would be jockriding a 32 y/o fighter who's best win is Kassim Ouma.

GG's defense has more holes than an Iraqi oil field.

Andre Ward MADE Golovkin's trainer stop saying he'll fight anybody.

Yeah , cos Ward has shown everybody since what he's capable of in the ring , hasn't he?