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    Default Re: Middleweight to Super-Middleweight Transition

    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Has there ever been a fighter who was dominant like GGG at middleweight and then moved up to super middle and was a huge success? I cant think of any? Abraham comes to mind but he wasnt great at SMW. I can think of loads in the lower weights but the higher weights where the jump is a bit more there are not so many?
    MW today is a lot weaker than the other divisions.

    WW's can move to 154
    LW's can move to 140 and 147

    Because they've been against real fighters and in real fights.

    It's all about the level of comp.

    Hopkins moved up successfully from 160 because he was used to fighting mofos.
    GG aint ready for nobody at 168.

    That's why his camp stopped popping off about 154 to 168...

    If Adama and Geale can catch him CLEAN I'm sure Willie the Janitor at 168 will catch him too.

    no shame getting hit a little by Rosado....he's quick and sneaky...he's gonna hit you.

    But

    Adama....hahahaha

    That TRASH has no business TOUCHING a top fighter.
    He was actually setting GG up and walking him right into his slow-motion punches.

    Watch the fight...it's on Youtube.

    Kelly Pavlik didn't even let mofos like that touch him.

    You have to consider the level of comp before you call GG dominant.
    Broner could have stayed at 135 and became "dominant"

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    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Has there ever been a fighter who was dominant like GGG at middleweight and then moved up to super middle and was a huge success? I cant think of any? Abraham comes to mind but he wasnt great at SMW. I can think of loads in the lower weights but the higher weights where the jump is a bit more there are not so many?
    MW today is a lot weaker than the other divisions.

    WW's can move to 154
    LW's can move to 140 and 147

    Because they've been against real fighters and in real fights.

    It's all about the level of comp.

    Hopkins moved up successfully from 160 because he was used to fighting mofos.
    GG aint ready for nobody at 168.

    That's why his camp stopped popping off about 154 to 168...

    If Adama and Geale can catch him CLEAN I'm sure Willie the Janitor at 168 will catch him too.

    no shame getting hit a little by Rosado....he's quick and sneaky...he's gonna hit you.

    But

    Adama....hahahaha

    That TRASH has no business TOUCHING a top fighter.
    He was actually setting GG up and walking him right into his slow-motion punches.

    Watch the fight...it's on Youtube.

    Kelly Pavlik didn't even let mofos like that touch him.

    You have to consider the level of comp before you call GG dominant.
    Broner could have stayed at 135 and became "dominant"
    You don't seem to no much about GGG, for a start he was a outstanding amateur, and he has
    beaten all his opponents as a pro, why because he's not American is that why , your very narrow minded, you do seem to like trash talking fighters don't you love the BS.
    Remember there ARE good fighters, out side the USA and GGG just happens to be one of them
    weather you like it or not.

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    Default Re: Middleweight to Super-Middleweight Transition

    Quote Originally Posted by cyclone View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe View Post
    Has there ever been a fighter who was dominant like GGG at middleweight and then moved up to super middle and was a huge success? I cant think of any? Abraham comes to mind but he wasnt great at SMW. I can think of loads in the lower weights but the higher weights where the jump is a bit more there are not so many?
    MW today is a lot weaker than the other divisions.

    WW's can move to 154
    LW's can move to 140 and 147

    Because they've been against real fighters and in real fights.

    It's all about the level of comp.

    Hopkins moved up successfully from 160 because he was used to fighting mofos.
    GG aint ready for nobody at 168.

    That's why his camp stopped popping off about 154 to 168...

    If Adama and Geale can catch him CLEAN I'm sure Willie the Janitor at 168 will catch him too.

    no shame getting hit a little by Rosado....he's quick and sneaky...he's gonna hit you.

    But

    Adama....hahahaha

    That TRASH has no business TOUCHING a top fighter.
    He was actually setting GG up and walking him right into his slow-motion punches.

    Watch the fight...it's on Youtube.

    Kelly Pavlik didn't even let mofos like that touch him.

    You have to consider the level of comp before you call GG dominant.
    Broner could have stayed at 135 and became "dominant"
    No he couldnt. He couldnt make weight. Even if he could Crawford or Vazquez would box the ears off him. Heck if he had to make weight and not weigh in over the limit both Beltran and Figueroa would have chances against him. And that division certainly isnt stacked.

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    Default Re: Middleweight to Super-Middleweight Transition

    Well now Cyclones on holiday, we may having some sensible posts who ever GGG fights
    I will tune in as I enjoy watching him fight.
    We got some good debates, on this subject lets carry on with it.

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    Default Re: Middleweight to Super-Middleweight Transition

    I think the jump from Jr. Middle (guys that start off there) to Super Middle and a decent Light-Heavy is easier than guys coming from Jr. Welter and Welter going all the way to Middle.

    When you compare the average height and size of guys at Jr. Middle to Super Middle, there really isn't a big difference UNLESS the Jr. Middle is a guy who came from Jr. Welter and/or the Super Middle is a guy that came from Cruiser or Light-Heavy (very rare...).

    Even when Chad Dawson came down to fight Ward, as weight drained as he was and looked, you can tell he was BIGGER than Ward.
    Bigger man George, bigger punch!

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