Mayweather v GGG - fantasy fight

[Silkeyjoe]

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.
First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.

Could Floyd even make 140 again?

[Master]

GGG would lose at 154lb, I think he would be weight drained.

[ninjaspy3]

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I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.</p>
<p>First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

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<p>Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.</p>
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<p>Could Floyd even make 140 again?

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Is Floyd avoiding those guys? Or is it just that they haven't worked their way up yet?

The other things you mentioned still don't negate the point I'm making.

[cyclone]

<p>

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.</p>
<p>First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

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<p>Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.</p>
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<p>Could Floyd even make 140 again?

</p>
<p> </p>


Is Floyd avoiding those guys? Or is it just that they haven't worked their way up yet?

The other things you mentioned still don't negate the point I'm making.

You can't reason with a Floyd hater.

They want Floyd to move up AGAIN to fight GG but don't want Golovkin to up ONCE to fight Ward.

I can see if Ward were at 175 or Cruiser..but he's just one division away.

[Beanz]

<p>

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.</p>
<p>First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

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<p>Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Could Floyd even make 140 again?

</p>
<p> </p>


Is Floyd avoiding those guys? Or is it just that they haven't worked their way up yet?

The other things you mentioned still don't negate the point I'm making.

You can't reason with a Floyd hater.

They want Floyd to move up AGAIN to fight GG but don't want Golovkin to up ONCE to fight Ward.

I can see if Ward were at 175 or Cruiser..but he's just one division away.

You simply put, cannot reason at all.

[Silkeyjoe]

<p>

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.</p>
<p>First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Could Floyd even make 140 again?

</p>
<p> </p>


Is Floyd avoiding those guys? Or is it just that they haven't worked their way up yet?

The other things you mentioned still don't negate the point I'm making.

You can't reason with a Floyd hater.

They want Floyd to move up AGAIN to fight GG but don't want Golovkin to up ONCE to fight Ward.

I can see if Ward were at 175 or Cruiser..but he's just one division away.

You simply put, cannot reason at all.

Where has anyone on this forum said Floyd should move up to fight GG? Ive suggested they fight at 154, the weight class Floyd fought in for the 1st time 7 years ago. And if not him, at least fight a good up and comer people think have a chance agaisnt him. Thurman, Porter rather than a plodder he already beat a few months ago,

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

Golovkin to me is a much bigger, slightly more controlled version of Lucas Mattysse. A self styled boxer-puncher who would happily brawl if things weren't entirely to plan.

This is the wrong style to face Floyd with but when your hands are as heavy as Golovkin's hands are then you a very real equaliser.

I think Golovkin is just to powerful for Floyd.

[mikeeod]

To me, GGG is much more skilled than Lucas. He has great foot work, cuts off the ring extremely well, has a ramrod jab(which will bother Floyd), a huge punch with both hands, and is very effective at parrying shots. Floyd is much faster, so it would be interesting to see Floyd use n create angles to pot shot GGG from the outside. This is one fight where Floyd would HAVE to stay off the ropes.

[Dia bando]

<p>

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.</p>
<p>First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

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<p> </p>
<p>Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.</p>
<p> </p>
<p>Could Floyd even make 140 again?

</p>
<p> </p>


Is Floyd avoiding those guys? Or is it just that they haven't worked their way up yet?

The other things you mentioned still don't negate the point I'm making.

You can't reason with a Floyd hater.

They want Floyd to move up AGAIN to fight GG but don't want Golovkin to up ONCE to fight Ward.

I can see if Ward were at 175 or Cruiser..but he's just one division away.

I think no one hates Floyd, THEY HATE YOU ! what is it with you.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cyclone]

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.
First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.

Could Floyd even make 140 again?

Floyd didn't make Canelito come in at 152
Canelo MADE THE OFFER...it was HIS idea...not Floyd's.
I don't hear Canelo bitching about it.

Was if fair Oscar MADE Floyd move up and weigh no less than 150lbs.
Was that fair?


Was it fair for Manny to MAKE Margarito fight him at 150 for a fake 154lb title
Was it fair for Manny to drain Cotto..?

[Master]

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.
First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.

Could Floyd even make 140 again?

Floyd didn't make Canelito come in at 152
Canelo MADE THE OFFER...it was HIS idea...not Floyd's.
I don't hear Canelo bitching about it.

Was if fair Oscar MADE Floyd move up and weigh no less than 150lbs.
Was that fair?


Was it fair for Manny to MAKE Margarito fight him at 150 for a fake 154lb title
Was it fair for Manny to drain Cotto..?

You are so far up Floyds ass you can't see the truth because you are covered in shit.

Canelo did not offer to go down to below light middleweight limit, Floyd insisted it happen otherwise there would be no fight.

[Silkeyjoe]

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.
First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.

Could Floyd even make 140 again?

Floyd didn't make Canelito come in at 152
Canelo MADE THE OFFER...it was HIS idea...not Floyd's.
I don't hear Canelo bitching about it.

Was if fair Oscar MADE Floyd move up and weigh no less than 150lbs.
Was that fair?


Was it fair for Manny to MAKE Margarito fight him at 150 for a fake 154lb title
Was it fair for Manny to drain Cotto..?

No it wasnt fair. 154 title should be fought at anything up to 154. I have the same feeling towards manny as I do Floyd except that I dont think Manny is anywhere near the best ever, Floyd could be if he had the balls to challenge himself.

[zhubin]

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.
First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.

Could Floyd even make 140 again?

Give it a rest. If Canelo didn't want the fight...he shouldn't have agreed to the catch weight. Floyd is really just a small welterweight...while Canelo has had no business to be at 154 for a few years now (Alvarez was 172 on the night of the Trout fight). 152 was more than fair.

[Silkeyjoe]

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.
First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.

Could Floyd even make 140 again?

Give it a rest. If Canelo didn't want the fight...he shouldn't have agreed to the catch weight. Floyd is really just a small welterweight...while Canelo has had no business to be at 154 for a few years now (Alvarez was 172 on the night of the Trout fight). 152 was more than fair.

Floyd would struggle to make Welterweight now. And dont give me that shit. Its like saying, if those 5 year old chinese kids dont want to work in sweat shop for 2 cent a day they shouldnt take the job. Floyd has the money so makes the decisions, is that fair? No but its the way of the world.

Im just pointing out that Floyd wont take on a challenge. He wont fight at other fighters prefered weights. Its pathetic and its why he is not and never will be TBE.

[zhubin]

I sort of have the feeling that deep down, most of us realize logically that a fight with GGG is just wrong for Floyd.
First off I will say that GGG is putting up some impressive wins. He is obviously powerful for his size. That's great. But how would it be justice for Floyd to fight a bigger stronger guy when we all know Floyd's punch power is topped out at 154. He is just able to keep guys at this weight honest and the rest he gets by on skill and reflexes. His last.. how many opponents have out weighed him? 154 is it. Just gotta be realistic. I'm sure many want to see him lose but we need not go overboard because of that. Let him lose in a fair fight against an opponent who actually belongs at 154.

Whats fair? Is making someone come in at 152 for a fight at 154 fair? Is avoiding young up comers like Thurman and Porter while picking on plodders who have been beaten easily before fair? Maidanas first fight at welter was 2012 while Floyds was in 2006 and has been at 154 before before Maidana was at 147.

Could Floyd even make 140 again?

Give it a rest. If Canelo didn't want the fight...he shouldn't have agreed to the catch weight. Floyd is really just a small welterweight...while Canelo has had no business to be at 154 for a few years now (Alvarez was 172 on the night of the Trout fight). 152 was more than fair.

Floyd would struggle to make Welterweight now. And dont give me that shit. Its like saying, if those 5 year old chinese kids dont want to work in sweat shop for 2 cent a day they shouldnt take the job. Floyd has the money so makes the decisions, is that fair? No but its the way of the world.

Im just pointing out that Floyd wont take on a challenge. He wont fight at other fighters prefered weights. Its pathetic and its why he is not and never will be TBE.

Floyd would struggle to make WW now?! WTF you talking about?! "Floyd has the money so makes the decisions, is that fair? No but its the way of the world." And your point? Floyd is in that position because he worked to get there...he earned his money and position. You make it seem like being a smart business man in a brutal business is to be looked down upon. And then you try to hide being a Floyd hater by making an analogy to a sweat shop?! Canelo Alvarez made the biggest pay day of his career against Floyd. If he cared so much about pride and being "fair"...his ass could have walked away from the fight.