NFL star suspended for two games for knocking wife unconscious

[Gandalf]

I don't think any athletic commission should be acting as a moral authority in the first place, to be honest. If this guy seriously assaulted his wife, it's a criminal matter and he should be tried, possibly serve some time or probation etc, then the NFL can decide how to act based on what is legally pending. What they have to say about it before the fact is and should be completely irrelevant, and it speaks to how silly people are about sports. If one a)believes this guy is guilty as charged, and b) puts their faith in the NFL to determine his punishment, they may as well go knock themselves unconscious imo. How many days of work do you think the average person deserves to miss for assaulting their wife? Not exactly the way things should work.

Very good, logical post.

I don't think a player should be banned for knocking out his wife either. Now if you attacked another player in a game, then sure, the authorities can ban you and legal action can be taken too. But something outside of that is personal and I don't think your job is a 24 hour one. That's why I am also against workplace drug and medical checkups, I just don't think it should be any of their business. If you are doing your job, then that is enough. If you hit your wife and she wants to sue you and divorce you, then that is cool too. I hate the media and how they try to make stories about nothing and this is another of those. That one about the racist team owner was another non-story. Mainstream media is beyond pathetic.

I don't think anybody has the right to hit any other person. We can say things heatedly, but when it comes down to it, unless somebody tries to attack you, then you should never lay a finger on another person. Hitting somebody else is the ultimate sign of weakness and loss of control. Knocking your wife out is one of the worst things you can do, but the result of that is up to the wife to decide. It should have nothing to do with your boss. I don't see how they are connected....unless the wife is also the boss perhaps?

[Dia bando]

All in all a man that knocks his wife unconscious is a shit bag, funny enough my son
showed me pictures of Floyds wife, god did he give her a hiding.
Yes chaps they may be Kings of there sport, but as human beings go they are low lives,
do they deserve to be sports icons maybe.
Descent human beings I think not, sometimes we get blinded by there status I for one
would not want my daughter married to one of theses fuckers.

[Gandalf]

Have him charged with assault, put him in the nick for a month. He loses his games that way. The wife can them divorce him and he is then banned for missing the jail time games. Win, win, situation.

[Violent Demise]

And what's the punishment for the wife? Who is said to have thrown the first punch. Nothing. There is no punishment for her. 2 game suspension is way to long. This was not an NFL issue. They should of stayed out of it

[Dia bando]

[QUOTE=Violent Demise;1260624]And what's the punishment , I have seen the pictures they were not pretty in my eyes he's a CUNT.
If your a half decent guy you don't knock your wife about, NFL ,Boxing, etc but because they
are superstars in there sport, and people over look it a Cunt is a Cunt, and I no a cunt when
I see one.

[Violent Demise]

And what's the punishment , I have seen the pictures they were not pretty in my eyes he's a CUNT.
If your a half decent guy you don't knock your wife about, NFL ,Boxing, etc but because they
are superstars in there sport, and people over look it a Cunt is a Cunt, and I no a cunt when
I see one.

So because she's a women it's OK for her to hit her husband in the face and disrespect him in public, right? I don't disagree with you that Rice is a cunt. Cuz he very much is. But that dumb bitch needed to be put in her place. And she was

[El Kabong]

Bill Burr - There is NO reason to hit a woman



Patrice O'Neal - Respect the Bicep



Ray Rice is not a good person for having beat his woman, but at the same time we don't know what his woman did before that incident (not that she should have been hit).

[Master]

And what's the punishment , I have seen the pictures they were not pretty in my eyes he's a CUNT.
If your a half decent guy you don't knock your wife about, NFL ,Boxing, etc but because they
are superstars in there sport, and people over look it a Cunt is a Cunt, and I no a cunt when
I see one.

So because she's a women it's OK for her to hit her husband in the face and disrespect him in public, right? I don't disagree with you that Rice is a cunt. Cuz he very much is. But that dumb bitch needed to be put in her place. And she was

I think knocking her unconscious was slightly over the top and maybe he should have took a more calmer and measured approach.

[TitoFan]

I don't think any athletic commission should be acting as a moral authority in the first place, to be honest. If this guy seriously assaulted his wife, it's a criminal matter and he should be tried, possibly serve some time or probation etc, then the NFL can decide how to act based on what is legally pending. What they have to say about it before the fact is and should be completely irrelevant, and it speaks to how silly people are about sports. If one a)believes this guy is guilty as charged, and b) puts their faith in the NFL to determine his punishment, they may as well go knock themselves unconscious imo. How many days of work do you think the average person deserves to miss for assaulting their wife? Not exactly the way things should work.

Very good, logical post.

I don't think a player should be banned for knocking out his wife either. Now if you attacked another player in a game, then sure, the authorities can ban you and legal action can be taken too. But something outside of that is personal and I don't think your job is a 24 hour one. That's why I am also against workplace drug and medical checkups, I just don't think it should be any of their business. If you are doing your job, then that is enough. If you hit your wife and she wants to sue you and divorce you, then that is cool too. I hate the media and how they try to make stories about nothing and this is another of those. That one about the racist team owner was another non-story. Mainstream media is beyond pathetic.

I don't think anybody has the right to hit any other person. We can say things heatedly, but when it comes down to it, unless somebody tries to attack you, then you should never lay a finger on another person. Hitting somebody else is the ultimate sign of weakness and loss of control. Knocking your wife out is one of the worst things you can do, but the result of that is up to the wife to decide. It should have nothing to do with your boss. I don't see how they are connected....unless the wife is also the boss perhaps?

We want to be so damn technical about things, we lose the humanity of it all. Yeah... so it's up to the law-enforcement authorities to do something about incidents like Ray Rice's KO-ing of his wife. The NFL should stay out of things, unless it includes on-the-field incidents. That's all nice and sweet, but.....


BULLSHIT. Goodell first of all was big enough to admit that the 2-game suspension first handed out to Rice was inadequate, in the face of all the criticism he and the NFL received. The NFL does not operate in a vacuum. It caters to fans... many of the very young and impressionable variety. How many young boys out there would see that play out like it did at first... watch graphic videos of Rice knocking out his then-fiancée... and get a slap on the wrist from the league. Worst yet.... see the guy welcomed back with open arms by his team and his fans.


Anyone can make a mistake. But Rice's mistake was huge. Some here will joke around that he should've used an open hand... or he should've just jabbed instead of throwing a hook. But is it really that funny? How must the woman's family feel? How about the real problem of spousal abuse? Trying to make up ground and working to resolve a very real problem... how about those people?


I'm gonna say it again. Goodell earns whatever money they pay him. He's got to deal with the media circuses surrounding every time a player takes a dump in the wrong place. He gets second-guessed left and right. Too lenient... too strong.


The NFL is not your typical workplace... so quit trying to draw parallels. Professional athletes are entertainers. They get paid ridiculous amounts of money to play a game... and all we ask in return is that they refrain from being wife-beaters, drug-addicts, or habitual law-breakers. What a tough job!


Will the NFL get every decision right? Of course not. But they've shown the balls to go back and reverse their field when they feel they've gotten it wrong. It's the most human and thoughtful thing to do.

[Gandalf]

Yeah, I see your point. It's not that difficult to restrain yourself from knocking out your wife.

[Beanflicker]

At the end of the day, a company has the right to terminate an employee if they are engaging or have engaged in activity that would cast the company in a negative light. The NFL doesn't want people thinking of murderers and woman beaters when it thinks of football players, and I think his termination was just their way of undoing the bad press they got for only suspending him 2 games.

[Beanflicker]

I've been in the same situation as Rice though, and I'm sure most guys probably have, where you have a woman antagonize you and antagonize you, even start attacking you, and you see red and want more than anything in the world to hit her in that second. But I think in any civilized person, there should be some barrier in your head that won't let you do it. For a guy like Ray Rice to hit her so hard to knock her out, or a guy like Chris Brown to do a prolonged beating on Rihana... that's just savage, criminal behaviour.

[El Kabong]

The following is the truth....






The problem is women WILL push you to the brink and then complain about you "shutting down" ...."Well he just won't talk to me, he just shuts down" etc....it's difficult to be the calm one, it's difficult to keep your emotions in check and men especially athletes use emotion to supplement motivation in their sports, so it's not surprising that Ray Rice to wind up doing that but it doesn't make it acceptable.

Jay-Z handled a similar situation with his sister in-law MUUUUUCH better

[Violent Demise]

I've been in the same situation as Rice though, and I'm sure most guys probably have, where you have a woman antagonize you and antagonize you, even start attacking you, and you see red and want more than anything in the world to hit her in that second. But I think in any civilized person, there should be some barrier in your head that won't let you do it. For a guy like Ray Rice to hit her so hard to knock her out, or a guy like Chris Brown to do a prolonged beating on Rihana... that's just savage, criminal behaviour.

Nothing annoys me more than the moronic saying a man should never hit a women. I agree with a man should never hit a women for no reason. Any man that does that is a coward. But if the women is stupid enough to actually hit first than she should be brave enough to take what comes in return. They don't want to get hit than don't hit. It's that simple. My mom never hit me growing up. So what the fuck makes any female think she can? The lack of common sense just boggles the mind

[VictorCharlie]

I've watched that video a few times and I can't quite tell who instigates the physical altercation. Right before she gets ko'd she is charging him and swinging. I think it is important to differentiate between a spouse that beats their spouse and when two people get in a fight. A person that regularly intimidates and physically assaults their spouse to me is different than what happens when a married couple has an argument that escalates to violence. We wouldn't even be talking about this if the roles were reversed. If this was Serena Williams instead of Rice nothing would happen. I don't antagonize people that can beat me within an inch of my life. Men shouldn't use their often natural advantage of strength and size against women but women should understand that there is a line and once they cross it they have stepped into a man's world. Regardless, Ray Rice isn't entitled to his employment. From a PR perspective, I think the Ravens and the NFL have done the right thing.