Who is the ultimate bad guy?

[Master]

The only thing I really dislike Bieber for is the music. He is in the Cyrus/Timberlake brigade and I just think the songs that I've heard sound rubbish. Teen/pop is always a rather sad little genre.

I do not see what the big deal is with Justin Timberlake.

[Gandalf]

The only thing I really dislike Bieber for is the music. He is in the Cyrus/Timberlake brigade and I just think the songs that I've heard sound rubbish. Teen/pop is always a rather sad little genre.

I do not see what the big deal is with Justin Timberlake.

I say the same thing about every Korean group too. They have a shelf life of 2 years and then new ones replace them with exactly the same sounding songs. The kids lap it up and I don't understand it. It is markets and manipulation and telling young people how to be. I don't like it.

It often takes people years to deprogram and learn how to like good music and some never do. That is pretty serious. I remember at school, everyone was in the main room listening to crappy radio, but me and a tiny group of others were into our Suede, David Bowie, Roxy Music, Bob Dylan etc. It often takes an infected teenage mind 15 years to erase propaganda and they are never quite the same. Then later they find the music that always matters.

On that basis, crap like Bieber has a lot to answer for. He is wasting the time of a lot of people and I don't see how he is talented. He has never written a Sweet Jane or Life on Mars? He useless really.

[Hulk]

The only thing I really dislike Bieber for is the music. He is in the Cyrus/Timberlake brigade and I just think the songs that I've heard sound rubbish. Teen/pop is always a rather sad little genre.

I do not see what the big deal is with Justin Timberlake.

I say the same thing about every Korean group too. They have a shelf life of 2 years and then new ones replace them with exactly the same sounding songs. The kids lap it up and I don't understand it. It is markets and manipulation and telling young people how to be. I don't like it.

It often takes people years to deprogram and learn how to like good music and some never do. That is pretty serious. I remember at school, everyone was in the main room listening to crappy radio, but me and a tiny group of others were into our Suede, David Bowie, Roxy Music, Bob Dylan etc. It often takes an infected teenage mind 15 years to erase propaganda and they are never quite the same. Then later they find the music that always matters.

On that basis, crap like Bieber has a lot to answer for. He is wasting the time of a lot of people and I don't see how he is talented. He has never written a Sweet Jane or Life on Mars? He useless really.

Imagine there's no bieber.

I wonder if you can.

Nothing to laugh at or shit on.

A brotherhood of glam.

You-whooo-whooo may say Im a dreamer

But I'm not the only one

I hope someday you'll join us

And the world will rock out to Steel Panther as one

[Master]

Pol pot killed 1.7 million people under Khmer Rouge. At least 1.3 million killed in the killing fields with 19,000 mass graves. Evil.

[Hulk]

Pol pot killed 1.7 million people under Khmer Rouge. At least 1.3 million killed in the killing fields with 19,000 mass graves. Evil.

Yes the Cambodian genocide is often overlooked. Small country so that makes the numbers even more significant.

It was like that "Wild in the streets" film on a horrorfying level.

[Gandalf]

Iraq in recent years is comparable. 1m dead through sanctions, 1m dead in war and now US toy ISIS chopping off heads. Maybe 2.2 million dead in Iraq since the US turned demented on Saddam for questionable reasons. And now how many will it be?

America is easily the most despicable regime post WW2 and with a supporting network of Britain and Israel.