Who is the ultimate bad guy?

[Gandalf]

The only thing I really dislike Bieber for is the music. He is in the Cyrus/Timberlake brigade and I just think the songs that I've heard sound rubbish. Teen/pop is always a rather sad little genre.

I do not see what the big deal is with Justin Timberlake.

I say the same thing about every Korean group too. They have a shelf life of 2 years and then new ones replace them with exactly the same sounding songs. The kids lap it up and I don't understand it. It is markets and manipulation and telling young people how to be. I don't like it.

It often takes people years to deprogram and learn how to like good music and some never do. That is pretty serious. I remember at school, everyone was in the main room listening to crappy radio, but me and a tiny group of others were into our Suede, David Bowie, Roxy Music, Bob Dylan etc. It often takes an infected teenage mind 15 years to erase propaganda and they are never quite the same. Then later they find the music that always matters.

On that basis, crap like Bieber has a lot to answer for. He is wasting the time of a lot of people and I don't see how he is talented. He has never written a Sweet Jane or Life on Mars? He useless really.