Wow Robin Williams Dies

[Beanflicker]

It is a battle man....and it can be very scary

No doubt, but at the end of the day the man who doesn't do what's right for his family, the man who intentionally inflicts emotional pain on them is the weak man.

[Master]

It is a battle man....and it can be very scary

No doubt, but at the end of the day the man who doesn't do what's right for his family, the man who intentionally inflicts emotional pain on them is the weak man.

I would agree if you said fragile, vulnerable and not in control of his senses at the time than weak

[Beanflicker]

Fair enough, I won't say that a man is weak overall because he was weak in the moment, but suicide = bitch move always (unless you're terminally ill or something along that lines).

[Master]

Fair enough, I won't say that a man is weak overall because he was weak in the moment, but suicide = bitch move always (unless you're terminally ill or something along that lines).

I know a couple of people who have done it and ask the same thing because they had young children. I just think they were in a place that they could not get out from and most like regret what they did if they were well and thinking straight because they loved their kids.

[Beanflicker]

It just bugs me how people talk about suicide the same way we'd talk about it if he died in a car accident, like "oh, poor guy, of course this happened, it's a shame it happened to him", like it wasn't his choice. He chose to check out. He also chose to hang himself and slash his wrist in his house, so whatever unfortunate family member happened to stumble upon him would have that grizzly scene forever etched in their minds and cause even further mental anguish. And apparently he never left a suicide note to even try to explain his action.

It was an awful thing that he did, but apparently you're not allowed to say that any more because that just means you're ignorant about mental illness. Yeeeesh.

[El Kabong]

but suicide = bitch move always (unless you're terminally ill or something along that lines).

Why the qualifier?

And apparently he never left a suicide note to even try to explain his action.

Even if he did what good would it do? None of us were in his position, none of us felt his pain.


Depression is deeper and darker than you could imagine it is your mind attacking itself. It is the organ you depend on to keep you calm, to keep you "normal", and when it malfunctions it can drive you to do things you would not normally do. So by that rational you can say "Suicide is the cheap way out....it's a bitch move....IF you're in your right mind" .....if you are in your right mind suicide is fairly easy to avoid.

I don't wish to berate or belittle anyone, it's just having battled depression I want you to get more of a feel for how it is...it is as unbearable as nails on a chalkboard, it's as draining as a marathon, it is as constant as a toothache, it will wear you down and make you quit at life...it'll make you quit. And people do quit, and their families hurt, and wonder what happened....what can you tell them to make it better? Well people who have battled will attempt to define what it's like, and hopefully more people begin to understand and the more people who understand, the more available help will be or the willingness to help will be for others who are suffering depression.....that and studying depression is about all that can be done.

Suicide is selfish, but the pain that drives a person to that end....that's a very real thing.

[Beanflicker]

but suicide = bitch move always (unless you're terminally ill or something along that lines).

Why the qualifier?

And apparently he never left a suicide note to even try to explain his action.

Even if he did what good would it do? None of us were in his position, none of us felt his pain.


Depression is deeper and darker than you could imagine it is your mind attacking itself. It is the organ you depend on to keep you calm, to keep you "normal", and when it malfunctions it can drive you to do things you would not normally do. So by that rational you can say "Suicide is the cheap way out....it's a bitch move....IF you're in your right mind" .....if you are in your right mind suicide is fairly easy to avoid.

I don't wish to berate or belittle anyone, it's just having battled depression I want you to get more of a feel for how it is...it is as unbearable as nails on a chalkboard, it's as draining as a marathon, it is as constant as a toothache, it will wear you down and make you quit at life...it'll make you quit. And people do quit, and their families hurt, and wonder what happened....what can you tell them to make it better? Well people who have battled will attempt to define what it's like, and hopefully more people begin to understand and the more people who understand, the more available help will be or the willingness to help will be for others who are suffering depression.....that and studying depression is about all that can be done.

Suicide is selfish, but the pain that drives a person to that end....that's a very real thing.

I've acknowledged that it's terrible. Never once did I doubt the seriousness of depression or the anguish that it causes the person afflicted. I'm not another one of these dummies who says "WHAT DID HE HAVE TO BE SAD ABOUT HE'S RICH!!" It's not my cause or intention to diminish the adverse effects of mental illness.

My problem has been and always will be with the act of committing suicide and transferring your pain onto your family and friends. It'll always be a selfish act and the "wrong decision" in my book. I don't believe it's a last resort or anybody had to kill themselves. I don't buy it as an inevitable conclusion: to me it will always be someone making the wrong choice in their darkest hour.

It's a selfish choice and it's the WRONG choice. The extent to which you are suffering mentally will never change that.

[El Kabong]

Yes it's the wrong choice, it's a selfish choice, but again those ideas aren't immediately going through the mind of a depressed person.



On another note, the media savages and jackals released a picture of Robin at an AA meeting....just despicable behavior to violate that trust. ABC also offered aerial views of Williams' FAMILY home directly after his suicide was reported....horrible.

[Beanflicker]

On another note, the media savages and jackals released a picture of Robin at an AA meeting....just despicable behavior to violate that trust. ABC also offered aerial views of Williams' FAMILY home directly after his suicide was reported....horrible.

Yeah I saw that... fucking vultures.

I work for a local news channel here, and it's our policy not to report on suicides. Obviously when it's an A-list celebrity you have to report it, but it doesn't mean you can't do it as tastefully as possible.

I turn on the news and it's aerials of Robin's home, and people hypothesizing what made him kill himself (heart operation a few years back, cancelled show, ect). It's madness.