Wow Robin Williams Dies

[Beanflicker]

but suicide = bitch move always (unless you're terminally ill or something along that lines).

Why the qualifier?

And apparently he never left a suicide note to even try to explain his action.

Even if he did what good would it do? None of us were in his position, none of us felt his pain.


Depression is deeper and darker than you could imagine it is your mind attacking itself. It is the organ you depend on to keep you calm, to keep you "normal", and when it malfunctions it can drive you to do things you would not normally do. So by that rational you can say "Suicide is the cheap way out....it's a bitch move....IF you're in your right mind" .....if you are in your right mind suicide is fairly easy to avoid.

I don't wish to berate or belittle anyone, it's just having battled depression I want you to get more of a feel for how it is...it is as unbearable as nails on a chalkboard, it's as draining as a marathon, it is as constant as a toothache, it will wear you down and make you quit at life...it'll make you quit. And people do quit, and their families hurt, and wonder what happened....what can you tell them to make it better? Well people who have battled will attempt to define what it's like, and hopefully more people begin to understand and the more people who understand, the more available help will be or the willingness to help will be for others who are suffering depression.....that and studying depression is about all that can be done.

Suicide is selfish, but the pain that drives a person to that end....that's a very real thing.

I've acknowledged that it's terrible. Never once did I doubt the seriousness of depression or the anguish that it causes the person afflicted. I'm not another one of these dummies who says "WHAT DID HE HAVE TO BE SAD ABOUT HE'S RICH!!" It's not my cause or intention to diminish the adverse effects of mental illness.

My problem has been and always will be with the act of committing suicide and transferring your pain onto your family and friends. It'll always be a selfish act and the "wrong decision" in my book. I don't believe it's a last resort or anybody had to kill themselves. I don't buy it as an inevitable conclusion: to me it will always be someone making the wrong choice in their darkest hour.

It's a selfish choice and it's the WRONG choice. The extent to which you are suffering mentally will never change that.

[El Kabong]

Yes it's the wrong choice, it's a selfish choice, but again those ideas aren't immediately going through the mind of a depressed person.



On another note, the media savages and jackals released a picture of Robin at an AA meeting....just despicable behavior to violate that trust. ABC also offered aerial views of Williams' FAMILY home directly after his suicide was reported....horrible.

[Beanflicker]

On another note, the media savages and jackals released a picture of Robin at an AA meeting....just despicable behavior to violate that trust. ABC also offered aerial views of Williams' FAMILY home directly after his suicide was reported....horrible.

Yeah I saw that... fucking vultures.

I work for a local news channel here, and it's our policy not to report on suicides. Obviously when it's an A-list celebrity you have to report it, but it doesn't mean you can't do it as tastefully as possible.

I turn on the news and it's aerials of Robin's home, and people hypothesizing what made him kill himself (heart operation a few years back, cancelled show, ect). It's madness.

[Xwetie]

Rest in peace!
Ooh silly me i thought it was Robbie Willains who died first til i read the news

[Master]

Love his quotes cocaine is gods way of telling you that you have too much money.

10 inspiring and funny Robin Williams quotes - Showbiz Feature - Digital Spy

[Gandalf]

I admit I was in slightly confessional mode last time out. It is something I try to avoid doing these days as it serves no purpose. It makes me look psychopathic.

The death of Williams appears to have been a combination of pressures. Expensive alimony, depression, and finding it harder to keep it all going post heart surgery.

The man was rapidly running out of resources with his TV show cancelled and saw no way out. Now, I wouldn't blame him! Blame the stupid alimony! 'He slept with me so he owes me always'. Talk about a long term prostitute, but a prostitute with no more action. Two such wives to pay for.

Williams seemed like a vulnerable kind man, but circumstances (alimony) pushed him hard, when ill health and age should have seen him slow down. He couldn't see a way out and considering drinking would have been the end and miserable to those around him he ended it quietly and quickly. He didn't know what else to do and being a manic depressive, he took the obvious path.

I think he was hounded to death by finance and if people really cared about him, then this could have been avoided.

[Gandalf]

Also sorry for my drunken retorts in this thread earlier. The death just upset me because it is terrible. It is a Robin Williams thread, not a me thread. One can make the argument that suicide is a chickens move, but let any normal person hack at their arms for a few minutes and then actually finish the job with a belt. It's easy for a living person to criticise that and say it's cowardly.

No it isn't cowardly. If you disagree, then try yourself. Hack at the arms, make them bloody. Then tie a noose around your neck and die. That's a serious intent. Then of course Williams had provided for the ex-wives, put trust funds for the kids and he did his thing. A coward would run and give nothing, this man was a giver. A coward is like the majority, they live on and on, but like a Dad in the West never give anything, and they never die.

Robin Williams, even through suicide, was a significant class above the still living.

[El Kabong]

if people really cared about him, then this could have been avoided.

I don't know if that is the case...to be helped you have to want help, to want help you have to realize you need help, and to do that you probably have to feel like help will produce results.



As for his money, the tv show, etc I think comedians are some of the most neurotic and psychologically fragile people there are. Over the course of his life Robin had seen many friends pass away, he had suffered through some bad marriages, he had battled depression, and to top it all off, as a comedian he was expected to make people laugh every night, each time bigger than the last. That can wear on a person, that can make a person worry if he's still got "it", plus at this point in his life he just wanted to relax and be with his family. The money was an issue, but he could always get more, granted his sitcom failed but the man was a Julliard trained actor he could teach, he could have gotten an HBO gig, he could have done voiceover work for a cartoon, the world was still his oyster at 63.....just shows how low he sank psychologically.

It is a shame sometimes that we cannot view ourselves through the eyes of those around us.

[Xwetie]

Love his quotes cocaine is gods way of telling you that you have too much money.

10 inspiring and funny Robin Williams quotes - Showbiz Feature - Digital Spy

I do actually not know a lot about this guy but i like quotes like that and i just felt like i had to look up some quotes from this guy, and i came across this one: and i thought of his actions a few days ago...

Robin Williams - "Suicide is a Permanent Solution to Temporary Problems"