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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    The Klitschkos?
    Never been accepted by many in the US media or by many American boxing fans.

    Most Americans generally only like African-American boxers. There are a few cases where they will accept a boxer from another country as long as he's not white.

    The Klitschkos, Hatton, Calzaghe, Dariusz have generally been ridiculed and discredited by American fans and media people.

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Naseem Hamed deffinitly was. He was big miney back then and sold tickets.

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    Americans never warmed up to the K-Bros. While respected tremendously, Calzaghe was never a star here. His fight against RJJ and Bhop did fine business, but not BIG business. Same with Froch. Well-liked but not a star. Hatton and Hamed were received pretty well for a short period of time.

    I just wonder whether guys like GGG and Kovalev, were they to continue to win, would really be marketable in the United States.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I just wonder whether guys like GGG and Kovalev, were they to continue to win, would really be marketable in the United States.
    There will be some who appreciate them, but there will be other fans (and boxing writers and commentators such as Satterfield, Atlas, Farhood, Raskin and Iole) who will never accept them. Golovkin being only half-white will be better accepted than Kovalev.

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I just wonder whether guys like GGG and Kovalev, were they to continue to win, would really be marketable in the United States.
    There will be some who appreciate them, but there will be other fans (and boxing writers and commentators such as Satterfield, Atlas, Farhood, Raskin and Iole) who will never accept them. Golovkin being only half-white will be better accepted than Kovalev.


    F--k Farhood, Atlas, Iole, etc. These guys are already accepted in the US. GGG is often referred to as the euro-Pacquiao. GGG is the future of boxing. If Kovalev beats Hopkins (which I believe he will do), he too will become a monster star in the US. GGG is very close to PVV status. And who gives a shit what Satterfield or Raskin think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    I just wonder whether guys like GGG and Kovalev, were they to continue to win, would really be marketable in the United States.
    There will be some who appreciate them, but there will be other fans (and boxing writers and commentators such as Satterfield, Atlas, Farhood, Raskin and Iole) who will never accept them. Golovkin being only half-white will be better accepted than Kovalev.
    I would like to understand your basis for this statement. It sounds very silly. I don't think the race of the fighter matters to american fans. There is no doubt a favoritism toward American fighters though on US networks, which makes some sense, because it is, American network TV. Steve Bunce is pro-Brit too.

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    The Klitschkos?
    Never been accepted by many in the US media or by many American boxing fans.

    Most Americans generally only like African-American boxers. There are a few cases where they will accept a boxer from another country as long as he's not white.

    The Klitschkos, Hatton, Calzaghe, Dariusz have generally been ridiculed and discredited by American fans and media people.
    That's over-simplifying it.

    Americans from PA loved Kelly Pavlik, in New York they loved Tito Trinidad, and in LA they loved Oscar De La Hoya. They weren't African American.

    It might be a style thing. American might like the style of boxing that developed in the ghettos of New York in the 1920s and moved to the ghettos of Philly and Detroit in the 1970s.

    I'm just thinking if Kovalev knocks out Hopkins and GGG stops Kid Chocolate, could they even become big hits in the U.S.?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freedom View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    The Klitschkos?
    Never been accepted by many in the US media or by many American boxing fans.

    Most Americans generally only like African-American boxers. There are a few cases where they will accept a boxer from another country as long as he's not white.

    The Klitschkos, Hatton, Calzaghe, Dariusz have generally been ridiculed and discredited by American fans and media people.
    That is a crock of shit, sir! I don't like the way Wlad or Calzaghe fights but, but I certainly appreciate what they accomplished. I don't like the way Hopkins or Ward fight, but I appreciate what they have accomplished.
    The one fighter I despise is an African-American, but I still appreciate what he did in the ring. One of my strongest desires is to live longer than he does so I can piss on his grave.
    Martinez was big in the US, as was Hatton. GGG could be very big if he keeps winning, and the sky's the limit for Kovalev if he gets past Hopkins.
    The American boxing media criticize and point out, what they consider problems, with all fighters; weak records, weak fundamentals, weak chins, weak punching power, and lack of amateur experience. I usually appreciate the information.
    Anyway, I think you are very constipated. Magnesium citrate will help, read the instructions carefully.

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    I guess the consensus is Lennox Lewis, which means that if GGG became a huge star, he would be the first non-heavyweight to do so that we can come up with.

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    Default Re: Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

    The only European champion to make it big Lloyd Honeyghan.

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