Has a European Champion Ever Transcended to Stardom in the United States?

[Dark Lord Al]

Didn't the thread say European champion ?
That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
See my point ?

[ryanman]

Didn't the thread say European champion ?
That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
See my point ?

Yeah, just took it as it was meant.

[Dark Lord Al]

Didn't the thread say European champion ?
That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
See my point ?

Yeah, just took it as it was meant.

You are saying you cant read ?

[ryanman]

Didn't the thread say European champion ?
That's why I said Lloyd Honeyghan.
For example Hamed was never European Feather champion, then he challenged Robinson.
See my point ?

Yeah, just took it as it was meant.

You are saying you cant read ?

ha, no, just that I presumed the thread starter made an error. But you have to be a smart Al(ec)

[Fenster]

Getting back to the original question - The problem for GGG to become an American "star" (PPV/Las Vegas) is his opponents. There's only a couple of American "superstars" around the middle/supermiddle division. In fact you can argue that there's none at supermiddle, Ward has never got close to being a PPV/Vegas guy, a Froch fight would enhance his standing but is not PPV.

Obviously Pacquiao is not European, but he is a foreigner in America, so to make a comparison - his rise to superstardom started with Oscar (one of the biggest boxing stars ever) and backed that up by facing Hatton (PPV fighter) and Cotto (PPV fighter). And all this came on the back of already being an established great fighter with legendary fights against Barrera, Morales and Marquez. He had the Latino market onside.

[ross]

Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.

They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.

I like Britain just fine - my grandmother was born in Hull. But as far as producing quality, world class, ATG fighters... you lot are lacking. That's what's up.

Canada though?

Well hell, I never claimed Canada was a hot bed of boxing talent either (although the fact remains that the greatest "British fighter" of all time learned to box in Canada, but that's a whole other issue).

Difference is, Canada generally doesn't care about boxing. We like hockey.

The Brits LOVE boxing, yet they produce so few real quality fighters.

The British population is 63.3 million.

The American population is 317 million!

Britain has had Calzaghe, Hamed, Hatton, Lewis, Benn, Eubank, Khan, all rightly or wrongly pay per view level fighters due to their popularity.

The amount of these type of fighters Britain has given the world is more per population that America has produced.

Like you said, 80,000 went to see Froch v Groves. What American fighter has drawn a crowd of 80,000 in America where it has a much higher available audience?

What is the highest attendance fight involving two Americans?

[nuggetdotcom]

Which European fighters have achieved that over in the states Naz, Hatton and maybe Joe Calzhage.

They never had mainstream appeal in the States.

Naz was on the brink but got whipped by MAB and put on 100 pounds.

You really don't like Britain hey? Major chip on your shoulder boy.

I like Britain just fine - my grandmother was born in Hull. But as far as producing quality, world class, ATG fighters... you lot are lacking. That's what's up.

Canada though?

Well hell, I never claimed Canada was a hot bed of boxing talent either (although the fact remains that the greatest "British fighter" of all time learned to box in Canada, but that's a whole other issue).

Difference is, Canada generally doesn't care about boxing. We like hockey.

The Brits LOVE boxing, yet they produce so few real quality fighters.

The British population is 63.3 million.

The American population is 317 million!

Britain has had Calzaghe, Hamed, Hatton, Lewis, Benn, Eubank, Khan, all rightly or wrongly pay per view level fighters due to their popularity.

The amount of these type of fighters Britain has given the world is more per population that America has produced.

Like you said, 80,000 went to see Froch v Groves. What American fighter has drawn a crowd of 80,000 in America where it has a much higher available audience?

What is the highest attendance fight involving two Americans?

Think you might be a bit loose lipped here, especially with the numbers, but thats never stopped you in the past. A cursory look through world title fights over the last 50 years will show the american domination. I am also dissapointed that you never mentioned Joe Bugner in your list of british fighters, 27 rounds with Ali and 12 with Joe Frazier! Statto you are not!