Enough - No more apologies for evil

[Beanz]

No, he shouldn't be hung. Who started this rubbish in the middle east? Who allowed odd Muslims into the UK? I always draw the line between the elite and the trash that throw themselves into madness. They are on the same side of the line. There are good Muslims, but there are really, really shitty British leaders. Would this Brit have been chopping off heads if the UK was not an insane breeding ground for insane war? Let them kill a million Brits and see how you feel! Many Brits would cut off heads.

I won't be happy until Tony Blair gets into the Hague. Along with the Queen who allowed Iraq. It will perhaps not happen along with the reluctance to increase interest rates, but nobody could doubt the point I am making. The West has never answered for its crimes and is instead complicit in supporting and creating new terror and it's a joke. These people are scum.

They are not going to get away with it. The monarchy is my own main hope. I want it to be destroyed within my lifetime. With what I know and is out there, Charles has no chance of surviving.

Miles if we don't act and stop theses people, they may start beheading us well mate they have done
remember that poor solder, these people don't belong in our society lets exterminate them.
Issa are bad people they need to be brought to justice, we must bring back the death penalty for
theses people.

No. Stop with ISIS. They will never do such things.

We invented ISIS and it's a media routine. They are no threat.

Your government and monarchy are the threat. It isn't even my government, but those cunts are the enemy. ISIS is nothing.

Miles the problem is nobody is a threat to you over in cosy South Korea. So you idle away your time reading nonsense that agrees with your escapist world view and allows you to put the blame for everything on remote figures, that you would like to think have all the power, it's a typical cop out. Not only do you not believe Peter any more but now you are suggesting that the wolf ,clearly in every bodies midst, is merely a projection because you are suffering from what Bilbo would call cognitive dissonance. There are evil people in this world and some of them are just down the road from us lot in the UK and US, and not holed up in Buckingham Palace or David Icke's sick imagination.

We never invented Isis, they are the logical extension of an extreme ideology and have nothing to do with the British Monarchy or Government. It is despicable enough when they make excuses for such deliberate evil without having to listen to you apologise for them as well.

[Gandalf]

No, he shouldn't be hung. Who started this rubbish in the middle east? Who allowed odd Muslims into the UK? I always draw the line between the elite and the trash that throw themselves into madness. They are on the same side of the line. There are good Muslims, but there are really, really shitty British leaders. Would this Brit have been chopping off heads if the UK was not an insane breeding ground for insane war? Let them kill a million Brits and see how you feel! Many Brits would cut off heads.

I won't be happy until Tony Blair gets into the Hague. Along with the Queen who allowed Iraq. It will perhaps not happen along with the reluctance to increase interest rates, but nobody could doubt the point I am making. The West has never answered for its crimes and is instead complicit in supporting and creating new terror and it's a joke. These people are scum.

They are not going to get away with it. The monarchy is my own main hope. I want it to be destroyed within my lifetime. With what I know and is out there, Charles has no chance of surviving.

Miles if we don't act and stop theses people, they may start beheading us well mate they have done
remember that poor solder, these people don't belong in our society lets exterminate them.
Issa are bad people they need to be brought to justice, we must bring back the death penalty for
theses people.

No. Stop with ISIS. They will never do such things.

We invented ISIS and it's a media routine. They are no threat.

Your government and monarchy are the threat. It isn't even my government, but those cunts are the enemy. ISIS is nothing.

Miles the problem is nobody is a threat to you over in cosy South Korea. So you idle away your time reading nonsense that agrees with your escapist world view and allows you to put the blame for everything on remote figures, that you would like to think have all the power, it's a typical cop out. Not only do you not believe Peter any more but now you are suggesting that the wolf ,clearly in every bodies midst, is merely a projection because you are suffering from what Bilbo would call cognitive dissonance. There are evil people in this world and some of them are just down the road from us lot in the UK and US, and not holed up in Buckingham Palace or David Icke's sick imagination.

We never invented Isis, they are the logical extension of an extreme ideology and have nothing to do with the British Monarchy or Government. It is despicable enough when they make excuses for such deliberate evil without having to listen to you apologise for them as well.

Oh, come on, my dear fellow.

The British were involved in training Isis along with several other questionable nations. Their leader is definitely part of the program. It seems a considerable number of the people in Isis are British too and on that basis I can understand the fear of terrorism. We create terrorism by invading countries that are none of our concern and of course it will come back home. It's easy to point at beheadings and get in a panic, but why are people getting their heads cut off in Iraq? It all leads back to the same people and Buckingham Palace and Blair and the secret dossier compilers (not Icke) are the source. 9-11 was NOTHING to do with us nor Iraq and yet we invaded the country. It all leads to us and our lies and Iraq must despise us and so they should. We create terrorism. We feed it and grow it and of course it festers. The elite know too well what they are doing.

Things are settled here because immigration is controlled and there are no lunatic attempts to control the world. There are no documented Korean ISIS members. Wouldn't it help the UK to stop playing little poodle and to just sort itself out domestically. Close the borders and sort yourselves out. It's like Don Quixote chasing windmills and then getting pushed off his own horse by a little girl. Learn to ride the horse! But no, bigger windmills! More police state! More wars! More monarchy! And more.....terrorists! Just ride the horse properly and control yourself. I would like the UK to be a bit more responsible to its citizens and the world, but it's forever chasing windmills.

[Gandalf]

And what's the latest windmill? Russia? Cameron is out of his fat disgraced Eton mind! Oh, don't get me started. The world is looking at the freak nations of the West and saying 'No, thanks'. They are all forming alliances and the dinosaurs are foaming at the mouth wanting WW3! Utterly off their rockers. They make Quixote seem absolutely normal.

[ryanman]

No, he shouldn't be hung. Who started this rubbish in the middle east? Who allowed odd Muslims into the UK? I always draw the line between the elite and the trash that throw themselves into madness. They are on the same side of the line. There are good Muslims, but there are really, really shitty British leaders. Would this Brit have been chopping off heads if the UK was not an insane breeding ground for insane war? Let them kill a million Brits and see how you feel! Many Brits would cut off heads.

I won't be happy until Tony Blair gets into the Hague. Along with the Queen who allowed Iraq. It will perhaps not happen along with the reluctance to increase interest rates, but nobody could doubt the point I am making. The West has never answered for its crimes and is instead complicit in supporting and creating new terror and it's a joke. These people are scum.

They are not going to get away with it. The monarchy is my own main hope. I want it to be destroyed within my lifetime. With what I know and is out there, Charles has no chance of surviving.

Miles if we don't act and stop theses people, they may start beheading us well mate they have done
remember that poor solder, these people don't belong in our society lets exterminate them.
Issa are bad people they need to be brought to justice, we must bring back the death penalty for
theses people.

No. Stop with ISIS. They will never do such things.

We invented ISIS and it's a media routine. They are no threat.

Your government and monarchy are the threat. It isn't even my government, but those cunts are the enemy. ISIS is nothing.

Miles the problem is nobody is a threat to you over in cosy South Korea. So you idle away your time reading nonsense that agrees with your escapist world view and allows you to put the blame for everything on remote figures, that you would like to think have all the power, it's a typical cop out. Not only do you not believe Peter any more but now you are suggesting that the wolf ,clearly in every bodies midst, is merely a projection because you are suffering from what Bilbo would call cognitive dissonance. There are evil people in this world and some of them are just down the road from us lot in the UK and US, and not holed up in Buckingham Palace or David Icke's sick imagination.

We never invented Isis, they are the logical extension of an extreme ideology and have nothing to do with the British Monarchy or Government. It is despicable enough when they make excuses for such deliberate evil without having to listen to you apologise for them as well.

Oh, come on, my dear fellow.

The British were involved in training Isis along with several other questionable nations. Their leader is definitely part of the program. It seems a considerable number of the people in Isis are British too and on that basis I can understand the fear of terrorism. We create terrorism by invading countries that are none of our concern and of course it will come back home. It's easy to point at beheadings and get in a panic, but why are people getting their heads cut off in Iraq? It all leads back to the same people and Buckingham Palace and Blair and the secret dossier compilers (not Icke) are the source. 9-11 was NOTHING to do with us nor Iraq and yet we invaded the country. It all leads to us and our lies and Iraq must despise us and so they should. We create terrorism. We feed it and grow it and of course it festers. The elite know too well what they are doing.

Things are settled here because immigration is controlled and there are no lunatic attempts to control the world. There are no documented Korean ISIS members. Wouldn't it help the UK to stop playing little poodle and to just sort itself out domestically. Close the borders and sort yourselves out. It's like Don Quixote chasing windmills and then getting pushed off his own horse by a little girl. Learn to ride the horse! But no, bigger windmills! More police state! More wars! More monarchy! And more.....terrorists! Just ride the horse properly and control yourself. I would like the UK to be a bit more responsible to its citizens and the world, but it's forever chasing windmills.

Miles, I have put a part of your post in bold to ask - do you not put any of the blame for the beheadings on those that behead?
You may be trying to identify the genesis of these actions which is a just thing to do, but you seem to be suggesting that beheading wholly innocent journalists is a reasonable consequence. Not just that you see the genesis, but you think the result is reasonable.

[Gandalf]

No individual should be murdering any other individual. I don't care what their occupation is, you just don't do it. However, it is no worse than the types of crimes revealed by Wikileaks and of course Manning is in prison for 30 years and Assange is living in an embassy paid for by 11 million pounds. This is what we do to Whistleblowers who reveal OUR murder. The soldiers are free and the Whistleblowers locked up. Since when does Obama (drone king) or fat Dave (Eton bum boy defender poor person murderer) care about criminal acts. Get to the root, weed out our criminals, and leave the world alone. They are likely quite sick of us all.

I don't believe we can ever move on until we show that we repent for our crimes and we don't. 1,000,000 dead Mr Blair and counting! You signed it off too, Queenie! Off with their heads and we will have a little respect. Then we should ask the Arabs to deal with it themselves. We have sold them enough weaponry do to so.

[ryanman]

No individual should be murdering any other individual. I don't care what their occupation is, you just don't do it. However, it is no worse than the types of crimes revealed by Wikileaks and of course Manning is in prison for 30 years and Assange is living in an embassy paid for by 11 million pounds. This is what we do to Whistleblowers who reveal OUR murder. The soldiers are free and the Whistleblowers locked up. Since when does Obama (drone king) or fat Dave (Eton bum boy defender poor person murderer) care about criminal acts. Get to the root, weed out our criminals, and leave the world alone. They are likely quite sick of us all.

I don't believe we can ever move on until we show that we repent for our crimes and we don't. 1,000,000 dead Mr Blair and counting! You signed it off too, Queenie! Off with their heads and we will have a little respect. Then we should ask the Arabs to deal with it themselves. We have sold them enough weaponry do to so.

You are right. All murder is unjustified. Of course.


I'm disgusted by it no matter who it is perpetrated by.


I wouldn't make excuses for Americans, British, Iraqis, or disparate bands of maniacs.


I'd be sure to condemn those that did it. If a family member of that journalist now went out onto the street, found a random Muslim and severed their head with a knife, that would not be justified.
Would you condemn that person? Or would you justify the act?
They would have a 'reason' for having committed that crime. Yet it would undeniably be a heinous act of murder.


Same with the horrific murder of Lee Rigby. If, following the murder, friends of his, or even just fellow soldiers that didn't know him, went onto the streets of Britain and murdered a random Muslim, that would be justified in the eyes of his killers (unless of course they had some double standards/lack of ability to follow logic).
For they killed a random, off-duty British solider in the name of a land they have never been to and people they had never met, and for crimes they had no idea if he had committed. To follow their 'logic' through it would be fully justifiable for someone to then follow that with butchering a random Muslim on the street.
These are not intelligent people.

[ryanman]

In fact in the post above I am giving far to much credence to IS.
Their reasons are not even out of some warped sense of justice or revenge. They aim to create an Islamic state and will kill or subjugate all those that oppose them. They aren't fighting an oppressive force. They are the oppressive, murderous force.
Any liberal, decent human being would condemn them.

[El Kabong]

Yeah....sad that England's in a tougher spot that the US seeing how you've got a higher number of muslims and a lot more radical muslims than the US as well.


There ARE good Muslims, but these fucking radicals do have a foothold and we've got to nip that in the bud.....all of us