Keith Thuman has been all over taking about Manny!!

[mikeeod]

I can see your point of view, but it just seems to me that, more often than not, a guy like Thurman jumping that high in class that fast usually falls well short and never fulfills his potential/promise as a fighter. I think of David Reid fighting Tito Trinidad and never being the same. Michael Grant getting blown out by Lennox n being finished as a fighter. Jorge Luis Gonzalez getting annihilated by Bowe. Kelly Pavilik and TVoris Cloud against Hopkins. Lacy being dominated by Calzaghe. The list goes on and on. You may be right and Thurman May be too big and too good for both guys. I hope you are right if they fight, because he seems like a good guy and is exciting which would be great for the future of the sport. I would hate to see him rushed and ruined at an early stage of his career though...

[Ron Swanson]

I can see your point of view, but it just seems to me that, more often than not, a guy like Thurman jumping that high in class that fast usually falls well short and never fulfills his potential/promise as a fighter. I think of David Reid fighting Tito Trinidad and never being the same. Michael Grant getting blown out by Lennox n being finished as a fighter. Jorge Luis Gonzalez getting annihilated by Bowe. Kelly Pavilik and TVoris Cloud against Hopkins. Lacy being dominated by Calzaghe. The list goes on and on. You may be right and Thurman May be too big and too good for both guys. I hope you are right if they fight, because he seems like a good guy and is exciting which would be great for the future of the sport. I would hate to see him rushed and ruined at an early stage of his career though...

I don't think he'd beat PAC. But I can say with confidence he's more of a threat than Algieri.
The guys you list don't have the same natural size advantage Thurman would have. David Reid wasn't ruined by Tito, he was rushed because his eye even after many surgeries was only getting worse and his stamina/eye cost him that fight. He was winning that fight for a while. Grant was never that good either, watch the Golota fight before Lennox, he needed a miracle to pull that out. Pavlik, Cloud and Lacy's careers went exactly how they should. This notion one loss destroys fighters is largely overblown. Why wasn't PAC ruined, or Marquez, or Berrera or about 150k other fighters that lost early in their careers? People think that guys are good and then when they lose and continue to lose they must have been ruined. Perhaps they were just never as good as thought. This theory is supported by the many fighters that become great after losing. Sure some guys are ruined in their first loss, but that doesn't mean everyone should be protected from that first loss. Some guys are ruined in wins. Getting hurt in fight sports is part of the deal. If he's a better opponent than the other options he should be considered.