Should Scotland stay in the UK?

[VictorCharlie]

It seems the British crowd views the Scots as a drain on the UK. Shouldn't they also support Scottish independence then?

[Master]

It seems the British crowd views the Scots as a drain on the UK. Shouldn't they also support Scottish independence then?

They are not a drain, they have oil and we still need that. They also have free education, parking in hospitals and medicine.

[VictorCharlie]

It seems the British crowd views the Scots as a drain on the UK. Shouldn't they also support Scottish independence then?

They are not a drain, they have oil and we still need that. They also have free education, parking in hospitals and medicine.

Is hospital parking hard to come by in the UK?

[ryanman]

I must say, Sean Connery is a cunt.

[VictorCharlie]

[VictorCharlie]

[Andre]

This gem hiding away in that final utube page covers everything, even cunt.


"There is NO reason to hit a woman!" - YouTube

[Gandalf]

Oh well, he's a man that women should probably avoid, but he is hardly Tony Blair. Anyway, GB, I would hardly call Connery one of my heroes. Jason Bourne, for example, is much better than James Bond.

Come on Scotland, don't let the careerist shites try and bribe away your future. They never keep their promises, so do the right thing for your country. You will eventually become like England if you don't and Englands apathy is not your responsibility. Threats, bullying and empty promises is all the bankrupt London mafia has.

[walrus]

I must say, Sean Connery is a cunt.

What's up with the Connery hating. I think he is a great actor even though he has the ability to play only one type of character. Plus, who else can have a chest that hairy and women still think he is a sex symbol when he is shirtless. It looks like he has a thousand caterpillars crawling up his chest

[Beanz]

What a fucking load of toss. Sometimes I log on after a couple of days, or sometimes just hours away, and you have littered the entire forum with one sided conversations. It's like leaving a naughty puppy home alone and returning to find it has dragged it's poop and whinnet encrusted arse across the brand new cream living room carpet.

[Gandalf]

The people of Scotland have a chance to be free and you want to stick to insults. You sound like the No campaign. Enjoy the privatised NHS, unaffordable education, and the continued housing bubbles. The Scots have a chance to reject this path and it is a positive and proud thing. The Scots shall always be our brothers, but sometimes a brother must lead by example, and you admire and love him even more for it.

[Beanz]

Miles you are unbelievablely naive. Rhun you are peddling bullshit with this "under the English yoke" rubbish. Scotland if it votes yes will not lower taxes or move to the left or become some beacon of freedom like the braveheart myth. They will rush to Europe without the bargaining power of the union behind them and actually be financially worse of. They are a tiny spoilt minority who have been subsidised by the rest of the UK and England would actually be richer without them. The remoteness of Westminster from the common man is just as real in Cornwall, the north and Wales as it is in Scotland but the moneyed lairds and millionaires behind the yes vote have just shouted the loudest and succeeded in duping many with their propoganda.

[ryanman]

55-45 for the No's is my prediction.

[Gandalf]

I know there is every chance that the Scots will be sold out by their elite, but don't they have the right to try? Don't they deserve that chance to do their own thing? Seeing people passionate and interested in the debate shows that people can be awoken. The rest of the UK is being sold out regardless and there is seemingly little resistance. Nobody wants a privatised health care system where sickness is about profit, nobody wanted the mail service to go, tuition fees tripling etc. This is all without popular consent and the only way to resist is if at least the Westminster noose is cut free. Scotland has held off so far on some things, but we know permanent austerity and a complete handover to corporations is the agenda regardless of any party. Would we really want Cuba to have just allowed the US to control it? For anyone to sell out on the greatness of the blossoming British welfare state? Scotland seems to have the better attitude on health and education whilst England has turned into a horror show. How can that not be rejected? Just how can you accept tuition fees in the thousands and thousands per year. It is just to control people as debt slaves and to then use health as a bargaining chip for profit? Just no.

If it can in turn motivate the English, then surely that is a good thing too? How can the status quo be a good thing considering all that has happened, it just isn't. Something has to give, I don't understand how much more people can sacrifice for the sake of landowners and bankers who sacrifice nothing. Ever. It's all give, give, give to them with landowners and Wonga ruling it over the poor. Who needs multiple properties? It's absurd, run a hotel if you are into renting rooms.

If Salmond tries to put the Scots in the EU without their consent, then in turn that's up to the Scots. The people are vocal and would seemingly think about their own interests and concerns (as they are doing here). It already happened to us without a choice and we suck it up and take it, and take it (though the EU was more stealth and people now know the score), but the Scots are here trying to say 'No, your system is despicable' and that is a start.

There are better models like Iceland and Switzerland to follow, countries that actually have a modicum of concern for the people. Small countries that do very well. There are Scandinavian countries that use oil for the people whilst we use it to fund murder. You don't have to sell out to a global model that will ultimately destroy the goodness and beauty and dignity of fine individual countries.

If England thinks it can be richer, then why are they so desperate for Scotland to stay? They care only about money and themselves because all they do is turn the screw. Does Cameron care about people? He hasn't so far, so why now? Only the elite have fared well under this mans jurisdiction and now he speaks of Scots as a 'family' and then at the same time makes threats against them like the father that raises a fist to the child? 'I love you, but I will punch you if you don't do what I want!' says Daddy with a malevolent grin. Lovely man.

[superheavyrhun]

Miles you are unbelievablely naive. Rhun you are peddling bullshit with this "under the English yoke" rubbish. Scotland if it votes yes will not lower taxes or move to the left or become some beacon of freedom like the braveheart myth. They will rush to Europe without the bargaining power of the union behind them and actually be financially worse of. They are a tiny spoilt minority who have been subsidised by the rest of the UK and England would actually be richer without them. The remoteness of Westminster from the common man is just as real in Cornwall, the north and Wales as it is in Scotland but the moneyed lairds and millionaires behind the yes vote have just shouted the loudest and succeeded in duping many with their propoganda.

So if England is better off without them are you then supporting the Yes vote? After all, if it makes your country wealthier surely its a win-win situation for you and the Yes camp. Reports say 3,000 of those millionaires would move to England if Scotland becomes indpendent, therefore making your country even wealthier again!