David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

[Dark Lord Al]

There are only 30,000 members of Isis.

How do you know? Is there a membership list somewhere? ffs

He got the fact from his usual source , the boys book of knowledge.

[Gandalf]

There are only 30,000 members of Isis.

How do you know? Is there a membership list somewhere? ffs

He got the fact from his usual source , the boys book of knowledge.

Aye. 'The scouts chronicle of the 21st century Middle East' is full of such factoids. 30,000 is only an estimate from a very questionable mainstream media, but short of going out there to count them myself, it seems the most reasonable. I've seen estimates from a few thousand to hundreds of thousand, but if the numbers are so low, then they couldn't maintain the region, but if the numbers are so high, you have to question who the heck is arming them all. Regardless of numbers, I don't own a gun and would struggle to buy one, and yet these people have dollars and made in America weapons. Now, I know that Americans can be armed (good thing too), but even the average American doesn't have a rocket launcher or a machine gun. The Iraqi army just gave them everything? So where did the weapons come from to even invade Iraq? It's predictable.

Saudi Arabia chops off a lot of heads too and yet nobody batters an eyelid about them. I am not defending terrible crimes, but I've yet to see anything beyond a scene from a 1980's slasher film. If you are going to chop off a head, you would resist, and go down in a gurgling, spewing, bloody mess. We haven't seen any of this. The ending of Raiders of the Lost Ark was far more graphic and traumatising.

Edit: If we want to help the Middle East we should put Blair in the Hague and stop arming people. We should give them compensation for an illegal invasion and say sorry, a massive sorry by putting people in prison. The elite themselves. People are not born monsters, they grow into monsters from trauma and abuse. Our behaviour has fed this disease and you can never right a wrong with more wrong. Until we face up to our past and lock away our demons, then we are the real monsters. Our elite has no concern about people and never has.

Edit 2: The entire thing pisses me off. How dare we not hold anybody to account for invading Iraq or Afghanistan or bombing Libya? How dare we allow these monsters to walk free and to create Isis? How dare we sensationalise with videos that don't even look real? This is how WW1 started and Michael fucking Portillo is dancing about with a pink shirt on my TV! It's disgusting! And Putin is satan? Are we serious? We destroyed Iraq and Putin is the second coming of Hitler? What a screwed up world this is.