David Haines beheading: David Cameron says Britain will hunt down Isis 'monsters'

[ryanman]

Real muslims have come out and are against these terrorist actions. It is a mindless minority that receive the attention because of their extreme actions.

Yes they have.
In the past I was critical that the Muslim community didn't voice opposition loudly. But it is not the case this time. People need to be flexible enough to see that what (arguably) applied before doesn't necessarily apply now.

[El Kabong]

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

Once there is a fucking ADULT in the White House yes, we'll kill the terrorists and we'll kill a lot of them. Won't create peace will it? How does Japan look these days? Germany?


Let the fighters replace the "martyrs" fucking let them...we should pay for their fucking plane rides over to their shithole sandbox just so we can massacre those shits where they feel "at home".


The world can take it's "grievances" against the US and stick them right up their asses! So soon people forget the Marshall Plan, so soon people forget the US helping out after major disasters happen.....fuck the world if that's how you operate. You want to look the gift horse of the US right in the mouth.

We do, we get bitched at, we don't do we get bitched at....fuck you, fuck your country, and fuck every country touching it!

As an American I'm sick to fucking death of hearing about how all the evils in the world against the United States are somehow justified because we're a Super Power especially from people living in Europe. Their countries had colonies, and a few of those colonies beat you at your own game and now it's OUR fucking turn in charge and we'll run this shit how we want.


I'm sick of people whining and complaining about the US, sick of it. Go join the fucking mujihadeen, go be a martyr, go back to the time before Christ AKA "The Middle East" and enjoy the nothingness of that life.


Oh there's an ebola problem.....you know what...fucking GOOD. I hope all you motherfuckers bleed out your eyes and don't cry to us for the fucking cure which we have....oh is the US helping out with that? Well all the more reason to hate us then....fucking worthless shits the anti-Americans....produce something for yourselves fucking leeches!

[ryanman]

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

Once there is a fucking ADULT in the White House yes, we'll kill the terrorists and we'll kill a lot of them. Won't create peace will it? How does Japan look these days? Germany?


Let the fighters replace the "martyrs" fucking let them...we should pay for their fucking plane rides over to their shithole sandbox just so we can massacre those shits where they feel "at home".


The world can take it's "grievances" against the US and stick them right up their asses! So soon people forget the Marshall Plan, so soon people forget the US helping out after major disasters happen.....fuck the world if that's how you operate. You want to look the gift horse of the US right in the mouth.

We do, we get bitched at, we don't do we get bitched at....fuck you, fuck your country, and fuck every country touching it!

As an American I'm sick to fucking death of hearing about how all the evils in the world against the United States are somehow justified because we're a Super Power especially from people living in Europe. Their countries had colonies, and a few of those colonies beat you at your own game and now it's OUR fucking turn in charge and we'll run this shit how we want.


I'm sick of people whining and complaining about the US, sick of it. Go join the fucking mujihadeen, go be a martyr, go back to the time before Christ AKA "The Middle East" and enjoy the nothingness of that life.


Oh there's an ebola problem.....you know what...fucking GOOD. I hope all you motherfuckers bleed out your eyes and don't cry to us for the fucking cure which we have....oh is the US helping out with that? Well all the more reason to hate us then....fucking worthless shits the anti-Americans....produce something for yourselves fucking leeches!

Calm down man. Most people have balanced views. Most people know that IS have no legitimate grievances.
Not everyone thinks like that. Super powers have always done some bad things, and often some good. US is no different. But whatever bad they have done is nothing to do with ISIS butchering their way through Syria and Iraq.
This Denilson person is obviously just taking the old line of 'these people are fighting the oppression of American foreign policy' and applying it to a situation where it is not relevant.

ISIS ARE the oppressors. They aren't fighting American oppression, they just don't like the fact that America 'interfered' in their killing spree.

[ryanman]

Also, America give the most aid as a % of GDP than any other nation. I believe Britain is second.

That doesn't get mentioned much.

[Dark Lord Al]

I want to know where this fucking clown Denilson is from , because he seems to make excuses for these Muslim killers.
Seems if your black or a Muslim you are pretty much free from blame in his eyes.

[Gandalf]

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

Once there is a fucking ADULT in the White House yes, we'll kill the terrorists and we'll kill a lot of them. Won't create peace will it? How does Japan look these days? Germany?


Let the fighters replace the "martyrs" fucking let them...we should pay for their fucking plane rides over to their shithole sandbox just so we can massacre those shits where they feel "at home".


The world can take it's "grievances" against the US and stick them right up their asses! So soon people forget the Marshall Plan, so soon people forget the US helping out after major disasters happen.....fuck the world if that's how you operate. You want to look the gift horse of the US right in the mouth.

We do, we get bitched at, we don't do we get bitched at....fuck you, fuck your country, and fuck every country touching it!

As an American I'm sick to fucking death of hearing about how all the evils in the world against the United States are somehow justified because we're a Super Power especially from people living in Europe. Their countries had colonies, and a few of those colonies beat you at your own game and now it's OUR fucking turn in charge and we'll run this shit how we want.


I'm sick of people whining and complaining about the US, sick of it. Go join the fucking mujihadeen, go be a martyr, go back to the time before Christ AKA "The Middle East" and enjoy the nothingness of that life.


Oh there's an ebola problem.....you know what...fucking GOOD. I hope all you motherfuckers bleed out your eyes and don't cry to us for the fucking cure which we have....oh is the US helping out with that? Well all the more reason to hate us then....fucking worthless shits the anti-Americans....produce something for yourselves fucking leeches!

There are a few problems with your rant. a) You illegally invaded a sovereign country killing a million people because of some vendetta against Saddam and b) You want revenge on being kicked out of this one small region c) You funded, trained, and gave weapons to very dangerous people.

Now, I am all for going to war against bad people, but you cannot very well fund BOTH sides and expect that to hold water. And of course you have the cure for ebola. Your country also patented the disease in 2008! It's interesting how Africa always ends up being the testing ground and Bill Gates ends up funding the vaccine. The Bill Gates that says himself he wants massive global culling.

[Gandalf]

Also, America give the most aid as a % of GDP than any other nation. I believe Britain is second.

That doesn't get mentioned much.

Iraq is owed reparations by these countries, Afghanistan too. Heck many, many countries, have been wronged by US foreign policy. No compensation despite carpet bombing millions in Vietnam. These are evil people. Each civilian killed deserves a payout given to the family. That would be another way to help right our wrongs. Instead we kill 'em all and get angry because people don't like us and grow up unstable and vengeful. Of course, the West is so broke now that any reparations would collapse the economy, but we don't have those kinds of morals.

[Gandalf]

Now if you see a non-photo shopped image of me hanging out with let's say Tony Blair, you would have every right to question everything I have ever said or stood for. And yet, when John McCain does it by posing with actual members of Isis, then nobody wants to put a basic equation together. If you want to get rid of Isis, then logically John McCain also belongs in the Hague. It's all too convenient that a well known politician meets a terror group and the funding and weapons flow in significant numbers. It's a cop out to have him saying rubbish like, 'I wanted to give moderates weapons only. My Isis were the good Isis etc'. It's horse crap and if the doddering old fool is so senile and stupid, then why isn't he being put in a care home? War criminal military industrial complex meddling scum the lot of them.

ISIS Post PR Photos They Took With John McCain

[smashup]

The USA will ultimately find and kill them. They have the weapons and the ability to kill more of them than they can kill of you.

And that’s all that seems to matter to most yanks. Killing them will not create peace.

New freedom fighters replace old ones.

If the USA wish to minimize the likelihood of terrorism being deployed against their nation, they must insist that their nation turns from the policies that have given rise to those grievances.

Once there is a fucking ADULT in the White House yes, we'll kill the terrorists and we'll kill a lot of them. Won't create peace will it? How does Japan look these days? Germany?


Let the fighters replace the "martyrs" fucking let them...we should pay for their fucking plane rides over to their shithole sandbox just so we can massacre those shits where they feel "at home".


The world can take it's "grievances" against the US and stick them right up their asses! So soon people forget the Marshall Plan, so soon people forget the US helping out after major disasters happen.....fuck the world if that's how you operate. You want to look the gift horse of the US right in the mouth.

We do, we get bitched at, we don't do we get bitched at....fuck you, fuck your country, and fuck every country touching it!

As an American I'm sick to fucking death of hearing about how all the evils in the world against the United States are somehow justified because we're a Super Power especially from people living in Europe. Their countries had colonies, and a few of those colonies beat you at your own game and now it's OUR fucking turn in charge and we'll run this shit how we want.


I'm sick of people whining and complaining about the US, sick of it. Go join the fucking mujihadeen, go be a martyr, go back to the time before Christ AKA "The Middle East" and enjoy the nothingness of that life.


Oh there's an ebola problem.....you know what...fucking GOOD. I hope all you motherfuckers bleed out your eyes and don't cry to us for the fucking cure which we have....oh is the US helping out with that? Well all the more reason to hate us then....fucking worthless shits the anti-Americans....produce something for yourselves fucking leeches!

Carpet bomb those mofos out of existance...KILL THEM....KILL THEM ALL....EXTERMINAAAAATE.


Lyle you actually made me laugh loudly reading that hahaha

As I read it I just imagined your face getting redder and redder , eyes bulging and foaming at the mouth (spit coming out even)

I bet you were jabbing your finger into thin air as you typed it.

I don't like the way you held back at the end though because I know as well as you know that you wanna see those countries destroyed by nuclear weapons.
Drop leaflets from your planes for a few months like you did in Iraq before "Shock n awe" allow the innocents to leave then level the countries one by one.

One thing that I find ironic is that it was your country that armed and trained the Afgans in the late 70's - early 80's to defeat the Russians trying to invade.

That's when they gained momentum and started to grow into what we see today... seeing the back of a Super power withdraw from their country gave them all the belief they needed.

Your making the a HUGE mistake when comparing Japan/Germany to Muslims because Muslims are everywhere on the planet not isolated to a single country.

[smashup]

Don't get me wrong here these radicals need to be wiped out but I don't see how that's possible.. the guy taking heads off is English...clearly a Londoner from the inner city , a "Raggastani" even (that's a muslim who thinks he's a black b-boy) I can tell just by hearing a few words from him where the cunts from
Basically he's not Syrian, iraqi, Afgan etc...

This is a hard enemy to defeat because they are everywhere.

Would like to hear your thoughts on how to defeat them....a country by country world tour of war ?

[Beanz]

[QUOTE=ryanman;1268809]

Yes they have.
In the past I was critical that the Muslim community didn't voice opposition loudly. But it is not the case this time. People need to be flexible enough to see that what (arguably) applied before doesn't necessarily apply now.

Sadly it is actually only a minority who have spoken out and most Muslims in this country are not moderate at all. This is an uncomfortable truth that we must face before we can change anything.

[Gandalf]

I think you need to hold our elite to account for their crimes, control the borders, and then make a concerted effort to integrate those who already live in the UK. However, they are never going to assimilate when you keep on bombing countries that have nothing to do with you. You have to lead by example and show you are doing the right thing first. That is crucial. How can you ever say a Muslim should not be militant when Blair is walking free and we were/are physically involved in creating Isis? You just cannot reconcile that. Until the elite change, nothing will change.

[El Kabong]

One thing that I find ironic is that it was your country that armed and trained the Afgans in the late 70's - early 80's to defeat the Russians trying to invade.

Before the commies got to Afghanistan it looked like this


The US made the problem in Afghanistan that Barack Hussein Obama recently made in Iraq.....WE LEFT! We didn't stick around to try and help out to make certain they were stabilized, we didn't offer to help them set up a government, they just sort of improvised it and the crazy bastards with guns just decided to take over everyone else.


Islam is everywhere, but the Fundamentalist Islam is pretty much in 1 spot....although England is growing their fair share of mujihadeen/martyrs because they are big into feeling guilty for ever having been a world power.

[Beanz]

The one on the far left is definitely a guy

[Gandalf]

The English Muslims are just sick of the invasions and killing of innocent Muslims and it isn't easy to adapt to life in a foreign country either. If Korea was bombing the UK, how would I feel? I would get angry. Iraq was the real killer of any hope domestically in that regard. Even most non-Muslim Brits hate what we did to Iraq and want Blair in the Hague. Domestic Muslims are angrier and understandably so.

You have to admit that illegally invading a country was wrong, say sorry and lock up the bad guys. Otherwise, there is no reason to expect respect of our political system from anyone. Until you stop the source, then the blood will keep on flowing. Ignoring Saudi Arabia with 23 beheadings is a joke too. 'We must not upset them as they will attack like in 9-11'. Really? So, what is this Isis, why is Saudi Arabia still there? Why invade Iraq and mess up Syria? See, you have an agenda and are rotten. Arrest Blair, Bush, and then people will take you seriously. Otherwise, this goes on forever. Even ordinary people are completely against the establishment and are just looking for the moment to break out.