Floyd, Manny, Hop, Roy legacy

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Rantcatrat has explained it better than I could. If Ricky had fought Floyd at 140lb it would have been to his advantage and he did give Floyd a hard time for 6 rounds but he would have been able to sustain that for 12. Do not buy into Floyd fighting at his walking weight he only shows you what he wants to show you. He could not make the weight required when he fought JMM. If Floyd had an advantage coming down 140lb he would take it, the reality is he weights light middle/middleweight limit and comes down to welterweight.

How? Would sweating his ass off in a sauna and starving himself give him more endurance? Or are you saying that he didn't train himself hard enough because he didn't have to fight at 140?

If the latter, why is it Floyd's problem if Ricky never put the work in at the gym for the biggest fight of his life?

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Rantcatrat has explained it better than I could. If Ricky had fought Floyd at 140lb it would have been to his advantage and he did give Floyd a hard time for 6 rounds but he would have been able to sustain that for 12. Do not buy into Floyd fighting at his walking weight he only shows you what he wants to show you. He could not make the weight required when he fought JMM. If Floyd had an advantage coming down 140lb he would take it, the reality is he weights light middle/middleweight limit and comes down to welterweight.

How? Would sweating his ass off in a sauna and starving himself give him more endurance? Or are you saying that he didn't train himself hard enough because he didn't have to fight at 140?

If the latter, why is it Floyd's problem if Ricky never put the work in at the gym for the biggest fight of his life?

What weight was Hatton champion at?
Why didn't Floyd fight him in '05 or '06 instead of Mitchell or Judah? Instead of in late '07 when Hatton's well noted weight gains between bouts had already deteriorated his resilience and had looked very ordinary against Collazo? I still think Floyd would have won (easy) but it would have been a more significant win

Like Mikeeod said Floyd needed more fights where the result was not in doubt, when Floyd was not the overwhelming favourite

Casamayor was calling out Floyd every chance he got from '09-'02, Dorin and Spadafora fought each other while Floyd fought none title holders Sosa and Ndou, Wright had agreed to all terms before Floyd went another direction, fighting Cotto or Margarito instead of retiring was a fight the fans were calling for when he returned Pacquiao was the right fight to make Martinez was doing everything possible to try and lure Floyd into the ring and now Golovkin looms as a very possible threat at middleweight Gavilin and Armstrong were featherweights and fought middleweights, but for some reason Floyd's fans feel it is unreasonable for him to venture that high, but if he wants to wear that TBE cap then he will be held to those standards

Leonard and Hearns got the fight done when they were considered the 2 best, Chavez and Whitaker did the same, if Floyd had of really wanted a certain fight I have no doubt it would have got done

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What weight was Hatton champion at?
Why didn't Floyd fight him in '05 or '06 instead of Mitchell or Judah? Instead of in late '07 when Hatton's well noted weight gains between bouts had already deteriorated his resilience and had looked very ordinary against Collazo? I still think Floyd would have won (easy) but it would have been a more significant win

Floyd cherry picked a 2007 Hatton over a 2006 Hatton. LOL another great excuse to add to the mental scrap book.

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What weight was Hatton champion at?
Why didn't Floyd fight him in '05 or '06 instead of Mitchell or Judah? Instead of in late '07 when Hatton's well noted weight gains between bouts had already deteriorated his resilience and had looked very ordinary against Collazo? I still think Floyd would have won (easy) but it would have been a more significant win

Floyd cherry picked a 2007 Hatton over a 2006 Hatton. LOL another great excuse to add to the mental scrap book.

Who said cherry picked? Nice way to avoid the question I'm sure most would agree that the Hatton of '05 would have been a sterner test than the version Floyd faced in December '07

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What weight was Hatton champion at?
Why didn't Floyd fight him in '05 or '06 instead of Mitchell or Judah? Instead of in late '07 when Hatton's well noted weight gains between bouts had already deteriorated his resilience and had looked very ordinary against Collazo? I still think Floyd would have won (easy) but it would have been a more significant win

Floyd cherry picked a 2007 Hatton over a 2006 Hatton. LOL another great excuse to add to the mental scrap book.

Who said cherry picked? Nice way to avoid the question I'm sure most would agree that the Hatton of '05 would have been a sterner test than the version Floyd faced in December '07

The floyd that fought Gatti would have defeated Chuck Norrris and Hatton in the same phone booth. Fact.

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What weight was Hatton champion at?
Why didn't Floyd fight him in '05 or '06 instead of Mitchell or Judah? Instead of in late '07 when Hatton's well noted weight gains between bouts had already deteriorated his resilience and had looked very ordinary against Collazo? I still think Floyd would have won (easy) but it would have been a more significant win

Floyd cherry picked a 2007 Hatton over a 2006 Hatton. LOL another great excuse to add to the mental scrap book.

Who said cherry picked? Nice way to avoid the question I'm sure most would agree that the Hatton of '05 would have been a sterner test than the version Floyd faced in December '07

The floyd that fought Gatti would have defeated Chuck Norrris and Hatton in the same phone booth. Fact.

Agreed and I never said he wouldn't have but I would have given more credit to Floyd had he faced Hatton then instead of Gatti

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What weight was Hatton champion at?
Why didn't Floyd fight him in '05 or '06 instead of Mitchell or Judah? Instead of in late '07 when Hatton's well noted weight gains between bouts had already deteriorated his resilience and had looked very ordinary against Collazo? I still think Floyd would have won (easy) but it would have been a more significant win

Floyd cherry picked a 2007 Hatton over a 2006 Hatton. LOL another great excuse to add to the mental scrap book.

Who said cherry picked? Nice way to avoid the question I'm sure most would agree that the Hatton of '05 would have been a sterner test than the version Floyd faced in December '07

The floyd that fought Gatti would have defeated Chuck Norrris and Hatton in the same phone booth. Fact.

Agreed and I never said he wouldn't have but I would have given more credit to Floyd had he faced Hatton then instead of Gatti

Why did Floyd (and Oscar) avoid Kostya?