Prisons in the US

[Master]

True about mental health but the culture of throwing people in prison is not a solution. The US have the highest number of poeople in prison for its population.

It costs £40,000 a year to keep someone in prison and £4,000 to put them on probation.

[El Kabong]

True about mental health but the culture of throwing people in prison is not a solution. The US have the highest number of poeople in prison for its population.

It costs £40,000 a year to keep someone in prison and £4,000 to put them on probation.

Well Master I'd counter with the fact that most of the mentally ill like to self medicate and if they don't have jobs then they also tend to break laws...so they can LEGALLY wind up in jail for a time. Also the homeless do enjoy going not to "big boy jail" but they like getting locked up during the winter every so often and they will break the law to do it.

Explain how cost effective it is when let's say a repeat offender drunk driver kills someone while out on probation. Probation is ok in some cases, and sometimes it's wrong.

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[Master]

There is a risk when you put people out in the community on probation. There are serious further offences from people on probation.

Locking them up means they will not be able to do that unless they are allowed out at certain times.

This guy was did he was stealing audi cars.

Dangerous prisoner went on terrifying burglary spree after escaping jail by fooling guards with pillows stuffed bed - Mirror Online

[El Kabong]

There is a risk when you put people out in the community on probation. There are serious further offences from people on probation.

Locking them up means they will not be able to do that unless they are allowed out at certain times.

This guy was did he was stealing audi cars.

Dangerous prisoner went on terrifying burglary spree after escaping jail by fooling guards with pillows stuffed bed - Mirror Online

And again try explaining how much money was saved in granting someone probation to a family who lost a loved one due to that decision....that right there is where you lose me on that angle

[greynotsoold]

In the San Bernardino County jail- the facility in Etiwanda holds about 5000 and there are other county jails for a population of 1.5 million- they refer to the 'double hot wing.' That is when two deputies grab a guy and chicken wing his arms while a third pepper sprays him. I know a guy that has been pepper sprayed so many times, he is immune to it. A deputy messed up a visit from his girl so, back on the tier, he assaulted the deputy. It was a personal matter and he was handling it. The deputy maced him and he just went ahead and kept kicking that ass.

[Master]

There was one dangous prisoner who basically said he wanted to move to a prison closer to his family and children. He said he would kill anyone to make it happen. He was in isolation but the governor wanted him to behave, get back in general population before he would consider it. When he left the room a warden said there was no way he wanted him in the general population.

[brocktonblockbust]

SECURITY GUARDS ARE COMPLICIT IN favoring certain individuals in jail whose cohorts outside of jail can threaten the guard's family. There is a don't ask-don't tell environment where a guard will not question an inmate's warnings that gang members outside the prison could bump one of his family members. Ugly situation.

[Dia bando]

Yes I seen this documentary, you lock someone up for that long no wonder they go mad, Yep
there are some nasty individuals, you keep a dog on a chain he will go mad,
So if we treat people like animals they will act like animals, some people need locking up
but in the US they have a very large prison population.
Maybe it time to stop locking people up for petty crimes, and only lock up harden criminals,
I am no expert just something to think about.!

[boyla]

Prisons in the US.....

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