Psychological Greats

[mikeeod]

[QUOTE=Master;1272986]What can Bernard Hopkins do to psychologically get to Kovalev?[/

I see the following factors possibly affecting Kov mentally:

1) Hops "thug" aura: I have been told on more than one occasion that many Europeans, because of movies/tv...etc., have the perspective that American ex-cons are killers. Kov seems like a thug himself, but Bernard carries himself in a way that intimidates many fighters (think Pavilik and Tarver), even though he isn't a knockout artist at this point. This isn't always the case, as was proven by Calzaghe, although I do feel that Joe was hesitant and scared the first few rounds.
2) Too much respect for a legend: in reading some of Kovs comments, he has already stated that if he loses the fight, it won't be all bad as he will learn so much during the fight. It doesn't usually turn out well for the guy who isn't sure if he can win or lose.
3) The magnitude of the fight: This will be a HUGE event, by far Kovs biggest and most important. I think that will weigh heavily on his mind and it will be interesting to see how it turns out for him.

[Master]

[QUOTE=Master;1273080][QUOTE=mikeeod;1273018]

What can Bernard Hopkins do to psychologically get to Kovalev?[/

I see the following factors possibly affecting Kov mentally:

1) Hops "thug" aura: I have been told on more than one occasion that many Europeans, because of movies/tv...etc., have the perspective that American ex-cons are killers. Kov seems like a thug himself, but Bernard carries himself in a way that intimidates many fighters (think Pavilik and Tarver), even though he isn't a knockout artist at this point. This isn't always the case, as was proven by Calzaghe, although I do feel that Joe was hesitant and scared the first few rounds.
2) Too much respect for a legend: in reading some of Kovs comments, he has already stated that if he loses the fight, it won't be all bad as he will learn so much during the fight. It doesn't usually turn out well for the guy who isn't sure if he can win or lose.
3) The magnitude of the fight: This will be a HUGE event, by far Kovs biggest and most important. I think that will weigh heavily on his mind and it will be interesting to see how it turns out for him.

Kov has a mean streak, just look at what he did to the crowd against Cleverly and when he was about to stop him he stuck his hips out. Kov looks a mean man which even Hopkins would not want to annoy so I think Hopkins will play it polite and diplomatic with Kov. Who wants to mess with the Russian Mafia?

[mikeeod]

[QUOTE=Master;1273081][QUOTE=Master;1273080]

What can Bernard Hopkins do to psychologically get to Kovalev?[/

I see the following factors possibly affecting Kov mentally:

1) Hops "thug" aura: I have been told on more than one occasion that many Europeans, because of movies/tv...etc., have the perspective that American ex-cons are killers. Kov seems like a thug himself, but Bernard carries himself in a way that intimidates many fighters (think Pavilik and Tarver), even though he isn't a knockout artist at this point. This isn't always the case, as was proven by Calzaghe, although I do feel that Joe was hesitant and scared the first few rounds.
2) Too much respect for a legend: in reading some of Kovs comments, he has already stated that if he loses the fight, it won't be all bad as he will learn so much during the fight. It doesn't usually turn out well for the guy who isn't sure if he can win or lose.
3) The magnitude of the fight: This will be a HUGE event, by far Kovs biggest and most important. I think that will weigh heavily on his mind and it will be interesting to see how it turns out for him.

Kov has a mean streak, just look at what he did to the crowd against Cleverly and when he was about to stop him he stuck his hips out. Kov looks a mean man which even Hopkins would not want to annoy so I think Hopkins will play it polite and diplomatic with Kov. Who wants to mess with the Russian Mafia?

U have a valid point, and I was thinking the same thing about Kov being a mean cat. I think he is. I also think that bully mentalities and personalities like that have issues with Bernard. Something about his confidence and the way he comes off unsettles them.

Think of Tito, Tarver, Cloud, Pavilik...etc., and how those guys were coming into that fight and how their demeanor changed during the fight. It's like they come in as destroyers, used to guys being scared of their power and scared of them and then find Hop who acts like they aren't anything he hasn't seen. He engages them in a way that makes them uncomfortable and he seems so damn relaxed, like the last worry on his mind is his chin failing him. After a couple of rounds they become a little hesitant, because they haven't shaken him or made him uncomfortable in the slightest, and he has actually walked them into a good shot or two. He is dirty and talking to them, and u can feel his will, his drive to win that fight and willingness to take ur best to do it. By the fourth or fifth round, those guys don't look like destroyers anymore, they look broken. Like they just want it over with and want to survive. I have a feeling Kov will follow a similar route in their fight next month. We will see....

[Master]

[QUOTE=mikeeod;1273094][QUOTE=Master;1273081]

What can Bernard Hopkins do to psychologically get to Kovalev?[/

I see the following factors possibly affecting Kov mentally:

1) Hops "thug" aura: I have been told on more than one occasion that many Europeans, because of movies/tv...etc., have the perspective that American ex-cons are killers. Kov seems like a thug himself, but Bernard carries himself in a way that intimidates many fighters (think Pavilik and Tarver), even though he isn't a knockout artist at this point. This isn't always the case, as was proven by Calzaghe, although I do feel that Joe was hesitant and scared the first few rounds.
2) Too much respect for a legend: in reading some of Kovs comments, he has already stated that if he loses the fight, it won't be all bad as he will learn so much during the fight. It doesn't usually turn out well for the guy who isn't sure if he can win or lose.
3) The magnitude of the fight: This will be a HUGE event, by far Kovs biggest and most important. I think that will weigh heavily on his mind and it will be interesting to see how it turns out for him.

Kov has a mean streak, just look at what he did to the crowd against Cleverly and when he was about to stop him he stuck his hips out. Kov looks a mean man which even Hopkins would not want to annoy so I think Hopkins will play it polite and diplomatic with Kov. Who wants to mess with the Russian Mafia?

U have a valid point, and I was thinking the same thing about Kov being a mean cat. I think he is. I also think that bully mentalities and personalities like that have issues with Bernard. Something about his confidence and the way he comes off unsettles them.

Think of Tito, Tarver, Cloud, Pavilik...etc., and how those guys were coming into that fight and how their demeanor changed during the fight. It's like they come in as destroyers, used to guys being scared of their power and scared of them and then find Hop who acts like they aren't anything he hasn't seen. He engages them in a way that makes them uncomfortable and he seems so damn relaxed, like the last worry on his mind is his chin failing him. After a couple of rounds they become a little hesitant, because they haven't shaken him or made him uncomfortable in the slightest, and he has actually walked them into a good shot or two. He is dirty and talking to them, and u can feel his will, his drive to win that fight and willingness to take ur best to do it. By the fourth or fifth round, those guys don't look like destroyers anymore, they look broken. Like they just want it over with and want to survive. I have a feeling Kov will follow a similar route in their fight next month. We will see....

Kov is relaxed with his power and always dangerous, the fight is very intriguing and I keep on changing my mind on who I think will win.

[Bill Paxtom]

Alfredo Evangelista

To Muhammad Ali >

"You act like a child. You're supposed to be the Heavyweight Champion, not a clown."

"Grow up, and act like a Professional. Save the jokes for Henny Youngman."

The Press then laughed at Muhammad.

Muhammad was schooled in wit by a 21 year-old Uruguayan.

[Master]

Alfredo Evangelista

To Muhammad Ali >

"You act like a child. You're supposed to be the Heavyweight Champion, not a clown."

"Grow up, and act like a Professional. Save the jokes for Henny Youngman."

The Press then laughed at Muhammad.

Muhammad was schooled in wit by a 21 year-old Uruguayan.

...and the 37 year old Muhammad schooled the 21 year-old Uruguayan in the ring.

[Bill Paxtom]

Yes,

That was an impressive performance by Grandpa Muhammad Ali.

That Muhammad Ali was 'funny guy'.