Quite angry about Ebola coverage

[Kirkland Laing]

Africans need to dig for oil.

....they actually have and sell quite a bit of oil. A lot of African oil goes to Europe and China.


But being the wizen liberal you are you probably A) Already knew that and B ) had protested against Africa being taken advantage of by countries like China and Russia.....oh wait you ONLY do that when America is at fault...my bad

Africa has about nine percent of world reserves. The Middle East has sixty percent. A lot of African oil goes to America too, but where it goes is irrelevant. Oil is a fungible product, it's available for sale globally. What really matters is who gets to produce it.

It's interesting that you're comparing American and Chinese actions in Africa to get access to African resources. There's quite a historical record to look back on. One country largely supplies their guy with millions of dollars of weapons. The other country sets up economic co-operation agreements, sends engineers to build roads, dams and so on, sends cheap consumer goods and sets up economic development funds to allow the Arfican countries to bypass the World Bank and the IMF which lock African countries into the tender mercies of the western financial system.

Which country do you think aspiring developing African democracies want to do deals with?

[El Kabong]

....so again, you said

Africans need to dig for oil.

And I replied "Actually they do have oil and sell it to various places"....which you apparently deemed an unworthy response to your whining.


As for China's involvement in Africa I bring them up because although America might lock the African nations into the IMF World Bank system IF African nations took that route Western nations such as America would be less tolerable of happenings like the genocide in Darfur, the Rwandan Civil War, etc, which China was more than happy to stay completely out of and allow the chips to fall where they may.

But you're right, the United States NEVER EVER EVER invests in infrastructure in other nations. We're really horrible at it. We never help the world...never. Not via The Marshall Plan, not just in general helping out after floods, hurricanes, earthquakes. We didnt' build schools and roads in Iraq and Afghanistan either of course....we just rape and pillage the world, we provide no safe haven for anyone but those dirty capitalists pigs who steal from and kill the brown people right comrade?


How about you just stop thinking up new posts and just put "It's America's Fault!" for every single reply you give? I'd hate for you to waste your time on debate.....especially since you're not all that great at it.

[Tam Seddon]

UK will deploy over 750 soldiers and medical ship to fight Ebola in Sierra Leone | Daily Mail Online

One of those 750 might bring it back

[El Kabong]

UK will deploy over 750 soldiers and medical ship to fight Ebola in Sierra Leone | Daily Mail Online

One of those 750 might bring it back

Well your odds are better than the USA considering how many troops we're sending.

Troops sent to fight ISIS = 0
Troops sent to fight Ebola = 4000

But hey it isn't like either is a big deal right?

[Tam Seddon]

UK will deploy over 750 soldiers and medical ship to fight Ebola in Sierra Leone | Daily Mail Online

One of those 750 might bring it back

Well your odds are better than the USA considering how many troops we're sending.

Troops sent to fight ISIS = 0
Troops sent to fight Ebola = 4000

But hey it isn't like either is a big deal right?

No not at all

[AdamGB]

And the second they started feeling ill, you'd assume they'd have the sense to get themselves quarantined and not run around covering people in their bodily fluids.

This is of course assuming that they don't under go a cautionary quarantine when returning to the UK to ensure no incubation, I don't think they'll be goi g about this idly somehow.

The nurse that contracted it in Spain did so whilst treating a spanish missionary who died from it, an unfortunate working hazard. People she'd been in contact with have been quarantined as a precaution, before even showing symptoms - it's only contagious when symptoms develop, not when incubating. She was a nurse dealing with somebody dying of ebola, not an average member of the public...

Just because there has been a case, does not mean it is 'spreading'.

5 Reasons America Can Calm the F#@% Down About Ebola | Cracked.com

[Kirkland Laing]

....so again, you said

Africans need to dig for oil.

And I replied "Actually they do have oil and sell it to various places"....which you apparently deemed an unworthy response to your whining.


As for China's involvement in Africa I bring them up because although America might lock the African nations into the IMF World Bank system IF African nations took that route Western nations such as America would be less tolerable of happenings like the genocide in Darfur, the Rwandan Civil War, etc, which China was more than happy to stay completely out of and allow the chips to fall where they may.

But you're right, the United States NEVER EVER EVER invests in infrastructure in other nations. We're really horrible at it. We never help the world...never. Not via The Marshall Plan, not just in general helping out after floods, hurricanes, earthquakes. We didnt' build schools and roads in Iraq and Afghanistan either of course....we just rape and pillage the world, we provide no safe haven for anyone but those dirty capitalists pigs who steal from and kill the brown people right comrade?


How about you just stop thinking up new posts and just put "It's America's Fault!" for every single reply you give? I'd hate for you to waste your time on debate.....especially since you're not all that great at it.

Why are resource-rich African countries queuing up to do business with China but not with America? Why do business with a Communist tyranny but not the world's greatest democracy?


You could read up about it but there's such a vast amount of information that you'd soon be facing shelf overload. If one of the little screws that holds the little shelf brackets onto the inside of your head works loose you could even be looking at total shelf collapse. So be careful out there.

[El Kabong]

AdamGB, well if Ebola is so fucking difficult to catch then why does a nurse in Dallas have it after following the procedures set up by the CDC when dealing with the Ebola victim in Dallas?


Kirkland....Africa might be lining up to do business with China but notice how Africa on the whole isn't getting much freer, fairer, and better for the people that live there....but you know the commies will remedy that the way they always do......oh that's right they never have.....ever.....in the entire history of man.

(drops mic)

[El Kabong]

News from The Associated Press

Hmmm, AdamGB it seems the World Health Organization says Ebola is...and I quote "Modern era's WORST health emergency"....doesn't instill a lot of confidence

[Kirkland Laing]

AdamGB, well if Ebola is so fucking difficult to catch then why does a nurse in Dallas have it after following the procedures set up by the CDC when dealing with the Ebola victim in Dallas?


Kirkland....Africa might be lining up to do business with China but notice how Africa on the whole isn't getting much freer, fairer, and better for the people that live there....but you know the commies will remedy that the way they always do......oh that's right they never have.....ever.....in the entire history of man.

(drops mic)

Like I said there's lots of information out there. The more you read the less likely you'd make that claim. Just don't get a screw loose while you're doing it.

[El Kabong]

Like I said there's lots of information out there. The more you read the less likely you'd make that claim. Just don't get a screw loose while you're doing it.

Yeah information about how great the West African nations are handling this Ebola epidemic....that's why we haven't seen it spread to Europe and the US......oh wait

[Dia bando]

Letts be honest if Africa can't feed it's people, they can't see to peoples health simple facts,
there is abject poverty no health care as to speck of, and poor education.
In the West we suffered with the same issues, but it takes years to eradicate theses issues,
in the West we had many nasty health issues, but through health care and education we
overcame them.

Africa has a big problem with Ebola, hopefully a vaccine can be produced to help sort out
this but it's not going to happen over night.
There are many nasty viruses etc, out there Ebola is one of one trouble is there is always
one round the corner waiting.!

[AdamGB]

AdamGB, well if Ebola is so fucking difficult to catch then why does a nurse in Dallas have it after following the procedures set up by the CDC when dealing with the Ebola victim in Dallas?

The answer is in the question... We'll just take her at her word that she followed the procedures to the letter and without error though?

I wonder how many other staff members in dallas on this case DIDN'T get it?

In other news, out of the 48 people quarantined in Texas, something like 42 have been released after 21 days... No Ebola, expect the rest soon.

The WHO said a lot of shit about Swine Flu too, here we are.

[El Kabong]

AdamGB, well if Ebola is so fucking difficult to catch then why does a nurse in Dallas have it after following the procedures set up by the CDC when dealing with the Ebola victim in Dallas?

The answer is in the question... We'll just take her at her word that she followed the procedures to the letter and without error though?

I wonder how many other staff members in dallas on this case DIDN'T get it?

In other news, out of the 48 people quarantined in Texas, something like 42 have been released after 21 days... No Ebola, expect the rest soon.

The WHO said a lot of shit about Swine Flu too, here we are.

Yes but this outbreak of Ebola has a fatality rate of 70%....so yeah, there's that.

As for the CDC procedures and blaming the nurse...when a woman gets raped are you the kind of person to ask what she was wearing? Because that argument, kind of similar to what you are implying with your rebuttal.

[AdamGB]

Come on Lyle... Does it always have to devolve into strawman arguments with you?

I'm not questioning it's fatalness, I'm questioning it's contagiousness...
I'm not blaming the nurse, I'm not saying she deserved to become infected. I don't think fire fighters deserve to burn or that woman deserve to be raped what's wrong with you?

You using her misfortune to somehow prove that ebola is more contagious than it is and frequently gloating everytime a person is killed with anything other than a gun is better how exactly?

Firefighters etc don't do it because they think there's no risk to them, they do it inspite of the risks!... that's WHY we comend them, they're doing a job with inherent risks for the betterment of society... How exactly do you go from that to me rape blaming?

My point is that a healthcare worker that is in frequent and prolonged contact with somebody in the severest stages of ebola contracting it doesn't prove a great deal about it's risk to the general population of 1st world countries.

You're intellgent enough to understand what I'm saying within the context of this discussion with out me having to point out that I'm not blaming the nurse, right?