If Floyd never fights Manny...

[IamInuit]

For two fighters who really dont need each other I have never seen two that need each other more. It almost feels like a kind of boxing purgatory. Its odd because both of these guys will be remembered more for not fighting each other then their first ballet hall of fame ledgers.

I think Floyd wants that 50/0 more then anything past or present. I dont think the pundits talk about that factor enough. We should also remind ourselves of who Marciano fought for his 48th and 49th. A spent close to 200 fight Archie Moore and Don Cockell. He must be an institution because he lived well and half the planet barely had phone service. Floyds not obligated to go life and death real or perceived in every fight he makes.

Anyway, if this phantom fight ever takes places I'd bet my left nut that it would be his 50th should he stay undefeated. That is its only shot at happening imo.

There is a reason why Marciano is ranked so low among historical ATG heavyweights he fought horrible competition. Like many like to say in defense of Floyd, it wasn't all Marcianos fault. He came around at a bad time when there wasn't much competition and beat who was available. It was still a weak resume. Guys like Ali, Lewis, Frazier, Evander, hell, even the Klitschkos all beat much better competition.

50-0 doesn't mean much if u don't fight the really big fights. Floyd fought better competition than Marciano, but it isn't enough, even with a 50-0 record, to be ranked historically where he feels he should be. Floyd will look worse of the fight doesn't happen. It will definitely hurt his legacy. Manny agrees to all of his demands so it looks bad to not take the fight.

Please of course Marciano got away with what Floyd would never get away with. That is a given. 50 and 0 means more to Floyd then anything. Its a boxing holy grail. Its makes little difference what difference it means to you or I. Floyds entire career has been based on that 0.

It does not hurt his legacy anymore then it hurts Manny's and like I said, both will be remembered more for not dancing then any of their accomplishments. If they fight it will be Floyds 5Oth. Thats most likely the only other fight that would rake in the same cash as the 50 million each from years ago.

[mikeeod]

For two fighters who really dont need each other I have never seen two that need each other more. It almost feels like a kind of boxing purgatory. Its odd because both of these guys will be remembered more for not fighting each other then their first ballet hall of fame ledgers.

I think Floyd wants that 50/0 more then anything past or present. I dont think the pundits talk about that factor enough. We should also remind ourselves of who Marciano fought for his 48th and 49th. A spent close to 200 fight Archie Moore and Don Cockell. He must be an institution because he lived well and half the planet barely had phone service. Floyds not obligated to go life and death real or perceived in every fight he makes.

Anyway, if this phantom fight ever takes places I'd bet my left nut that it would be his 50th should he stay undefeated. That is its only shot at happening imo.

There is a reason why Marciano is ranked so low among historical ATG heavyweights he fought horrible competition. Like many like to say in defense of Floyd, it wasn't all Marcianos fault. He came around at a bad time when there wasn't much competition and beat who was available. It was still a weak resume. Guys like Ali, Lewis, Frazier, Evander, hell, even the Klitschkos all beat much better competition.

50-0 doesn't mean much if u don't fight the really big fights. Floyd fought better competition than Marciano, but it isn't enough, even with a 50-0 record, to be ranked historically where he feels he should be. Floyd will look worse of the fight doesn't happen. It will definitely hurt his legacy. Manny agrees to all of his demands so it looks bad to not take the fight.

Please of course Marciano got away with what Floyd would never get away with. That is a given. 50 and 0 means more to Floyd then anything. Its a boxing holy grail. Its makes little difference what difference it means to you or I. Floyds entire career has been based on that 0.

It does not hurt his legacy anymore then it hurts Manny's and like I said, both will be remembered more for not dancing then any of their accomplishments. If they fight it will be Floyds 5Oth. Thats most likely the only other fight that would rake in the same cash as the 50 million each from years ago.

With a Manny agreeing to all if the demands and Floyd backing out, I say it hurts Floyd worse. Manny has also beaten better competition overall. People rank Floyd really high now because they watch him fight. Once he retires and people take the hard look at quality of opposition...etc., Floyd's legacy ends up suffering more than Manny's.

[IamInuit]

For two fighters who really dont need each other I have never seen two that need each other more. It almost feels like a kind of boxing purgatory. Its odd because both of these guys will be remembered more for not fighting each other then their first ballet hall of fame ledgers.

I think Floyd wants that 50/0 more then anything past or present. I dont think the pundits talk about that factor enough. We should also remind ourselves of who Marciano fought for his 48th and 49th. A spent close to 200 fight Archie Moore and Don Cockell. He must be an institution because he lived well and half the planet barely had phone service. Floyds not obligated to go life and death real or perceived in every fight he makes.

Anyway, if this phantom fight ever takes places I'd bet my left nut that it would be his 50th should he stay undefeated. That is its only shot at happening imo.

There is a reason why Marciano is ranked so low among historical ATG heavyweights he fought horrible competition. Like many like to say in defense of Floyd, it wasn't all Marcianos fault. He came around at a bad time when there wasn't much competition and beat who was available. It was still a weak resume. Guys like Ali, Lewis, Frazier, Evander, hell, even the Klitschkos all beat much better competition.

50-0 doesn't mean much if u don't fight the really big fights. Floyd fought better competition than Marciano, but it isn't enough, even with a 50-0 record, to be ranked historically where he feels he should be. Floyd will look worse of the fight doesn't happen. It will definitely hurt his legacy. Manny agrees to all of his demands so it looks bad to not take the fight.

Please of course Marciano got away with what Floyd would never get away with. That is a given. 50 and 0 means more to Floyd then anything. Its a boxing holy grail. Its makes little difference what difference it means to you or I. Floyds entire career has been based on that 0.

It does not hurt his legacy anymore then it hurts Manny's and like I said, both will be remembered more for not dancing then any of their accomplishments. If they fight it will be Floyds 5Oth. Thats most likely the only other fight that would rake in the same cash as the 50 million each from years ago.

With a Manny agreeing to all if the demands and Floyd backing out, I say it hurts Floyd worse. Manny has also beaten better competition overall. People rank Floyd really high now because they watch him fight. Once he retires and people take the hard look at quality of opposition...etc., Floyd's legacy ends up suffering more than Manny's.

Again, both parties are to blame and will get treated as such historically. If there is any chance at all of this fight happening it is only in Floyds 50/0 fight. All the rest of the banter does not really concern me. Legacy wise they are both 1st ballet and historically the lines in the sand will effect them both. That is all.

[imp]

For two fighters who really dont need each other I have never seen two that need each other more. It almost feels like a kind of boxing purgatory. Its odd because both of these guys will be remembered more for not fighting each other then their first ballet hall of fame ledgers.

I think Floyd wants that 50/0 more then anything past or present. I dont think the pundits talk about that factor enough. We should also remind ourselves of who Marciano fought for his 48th and 49th. A spent close to 200 fight Archie Moore and Don Cockell. He must be an institution because he lived well and half the planet barely had phone service. Floyds not obligated to go life and death real or perceived in every fight he makes.

Anyway, if this phantom fight ever takes places I'd bet my left nut that it would be his 50th should he stay undefeated. That is its only shot at happening imo.

There is a reason why Marciano is ranked so low among historical ATG heavyweights he fought horrible competition. Like many like to say in defense of Floyd, it wasn't all Marcianos fault. He came around at a bad time when there wasn't much competition and beat who was available. It was still a weak resume. Guys like Ali, Lewis, Frazier, Evander, hell, even the Klitschkos all beat much better competition.

50-0 doesn't mean much if u don't fight the really big fights. Floyd fought better competition than Marciano, but it isn't enough, even with a 50-0 record, to be ranked historically where he feels he should be. Floyd will look worse of the fight doesn't happen. It will definitely hurt his legacy. Manny agrees to all of his demands so it looks bad to not take the fight.

Please of course Marciano got away with what Floyd would never get away with. That is a given. 50 and 0 means more to Floyd then anything. Its a boxing holy grail. Its makes little difference what difference it means to you or I. Floyds entire career has been based on that 0.

It does not hurt his legacy anymore then it hurts Manny's and like I said, both will be remembered more for not dancing then any of their accomplishments. If they fight it will be Floyds 5Oth. Thats most likely the only other fight that would rake in the same cash as the 50 million each from years ago.

With a Manny agreeing to all if the demands and Floyd backing out, I say it hurts Floyd worse. Manny has also beaten better competition overall. People rank Floyd really high now because they watch him fight. Once he retires and people take the hard look at quality of opposition...etc., Floyd's legacy ends up suffering more than Manny's.

Were you in the meeting?

Do you have proof that they agreed to everything?

Manny has no say in anything.

Bob controls everything!

[mikeeod]

For two fighters who really dont need each other I have never seen two that need each other more. It almost feels like a kind of boxing purgatory. Its odd because both of these guys will be remembered more for not fighting each other then their first ballet hall of fame ledgers.

I think Floyd wants that 50/0 more then anything past or present. I dont think the pundits talk about that factor enough. We should also remind ourselves of who Marciano fought for his 48th and 49th. A spent close to 200 fight Archie Moore and Don Cockell. He must be an institution because he lived well and half the planet barely had phone service. Floyds not obligated to go life and death real or perceived in every fight he makes.

Anyway, if this phantom fight ever takes places I'd bet my left nut that it would be his 50th should he stay undefeated. That is its only shot at happening imo.

There is a reason why Marciano is ranked so low among historical ATG heavyweights he fought horrible competition. Like many like to say in defense of Floyd, it wasn't all Marcianos fault. He came around at a bad time when there wasn't much competition and beat who was available. It was still a weak resume. Guys like Ali, Lewis, Frazier, Evander, hell, even the Klitschkos all beat much better competition.

50-0 doesn't mean much if u don't fight the really big fights. Floyd fought better competition than Marciano, but it isn't enough, even with a 50-0 record, to be ranked historically where he feels he should be. Floyd will look worse of the fight doesn't happen. It will definitely hurt his legacy. Manny agrees to all of his demands so it looks bad to not take the fight.

Please of course Marciano got away with what Floyd would never get away with. That is a given. 50 and 0 means more to Floyd then anything. Its a boxing holy grail. Its makes little difference what difference it means to you or I. Floyds entire career has been based on that 0.

It does not hurt his legacy anymore then it hurts Manny's and like I said, both will be remembered more for not dancing then any of their accomplishments. If they fight it will be Floyds 5Oth. Thats most likely the only other fight that would rake in the same cash as the 50 million each from years ago.

With a Manny agreeing to all if the demands and Floyd backing out, I say it hurts Floyd worse. Manny has also beaten better competition overall. People rank Floyd really high now because they watch him fight. Once he retires and people take the hard look at quality of opposition...etc., Floyd's legacy ends up suffering more than Manny's.

Were you in the meeting?

Do you have proof that they agreed to everything?

Manny has no say in anything.

Bob controls everything!

I wasn't in the meeting. You can google it and find numerous articles. If you feel that they are all false and both guys are to blame, we are just going to have to agree to disagree.