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    Cool video! I wonder how they make that!
    Yes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.
    I don't believe that's right. Scrap says the heels act as the break. Not the lead foot, but either of the heels.

    Also the way the lead leg is animated is wrong in that video. The knee is locked which is no good, too much leaning. The lead knee needs to bend too to keep the weight in the right place. Also way too much sideways leaning, whoever animated that make some pretty big mistakes.
    Please don't start with national geographic conspiracies their at least a hundred years old, with all their money they can afford to make a video. I'll be up all night pondering as to why national geographic was lazy and callous. National geographic says that this is the most powerful punch, what we need to solve for is. Is that punch rotational or horizontal?

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    Default Re: Scrap's kinitec linking of a ko punch

    Another powerful heavyweight dragging his rear foot forward after the RH. Still the clip at 3:28 Jack Dempsey https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=ENiJs6_2P2A

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    Sam Langford dragging his rear leg forward after the RH 3:00 these fit into the pattern that national geographic has outlined for us, by telling that it's a whip action that most powerful.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JUdoGBkeqWQ

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    Default Re: Scrap's kinitec linking of a ko punch

    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xwetie View Post
    Cool video! I wonder how they make that!
    Yes it is I'm glad that I found it! Remember Scrap's second principal that the lead foot acts as the break. Look closely again how the back leg moves forwards after the punch. The lead foot stops the body's weight from falling forward.
    I don't believe that's right. Scrap says the heels act as the break. Not the lead foot, but either of the heels.

    Also the way the lead leg is animated is wrong in that video. The knee is locked which is no good, too much leaning. The lead knee needs to bend too to keep the weight in the right place. Also way too much sideways leaning, whoever animated that make some pretty big mistakes.
    Please don't start with national geographic conspiracies their at least a hundred years old, with all their money they can afford to make a video. I'll be up all night pondering as to why national geographic was lazy and callous. National geographic says that this is the most powerful punch, what we need to solve for is. Is that punch rotational or horizontal?
    What are you on about? Doing a bad job doesn't imply a conspiracy. Isn't that clip from that sport science show anyway? It's notorious for shoddy science and outrageous comparisons (this guy hits as hard as a freight train traveling downhill and 300 miles an hour, and produces enough power to run your house!!!). The animation of the lead leg and the extreme leaning to the left is straight up wrong, that's like day 1 how to throw a cross stuff. Any decent coach would fix that immediately, and even the guy demonstrating wasn't punching like that.

    There are several components to the trajectory of the punch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Another powerful heavyweight dragging his rear foot forward after the RH. Still the clip at 3:28 Jack Dempsey https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=ENiJs6_2P2A
    Yes a lot of hard hitters step their back foot after a big overhand, but their hips are rotating too. I think you're very confused about what's going on here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
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    Another powerful heavyweight dragging his rear foot forward after the RH. Still the clip at 3:28 Jack Dempsey https://m.youtube.com/watch?sns=fb&v=ENiJs6_2P2A
    Yes a lot of hard hitters step their back foot after a big overhand, but their hips are rotating too. I think you're very confused about what's going on here.
    Think He is, but young and polite. Heel is the bio mechanical break for movement. which means to move you have to lift the heel, otherwise you are not going anywhere. This is my gripe as regards weights, its all done on the heel different reflex, but resistance traing isnt, but thats another subject, but then its not.
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    Plus you dont drag the back foot you move it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Plus you dont drag the back foot you move it.
    Scrap I'm totally lost one coach punches like you the head coach makes me do what he calls two-legged punching where I kid you not both feet are flat on the floor minimal hip rotation so that rear leg does move forward that is how he teaches to us throw the RH. Why because he thinks that by rotating the hips its a weak punch and can be vulnerable to a counter to bad you weren't in Canada I would change so fast to your gym I'm crying as I write btw the head coach thinks your pure bollucks or Bullshit after I showed him your vids on YouTube.The provincial coach Silvio hates that punch and so does the technical coach both preferring your style, but I can't do anything because of the club coach. Please explain how do I tell the head coach that it's a good thing to lift up the back heel when punching?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Plus you dont drag the back foot you move it.
    Scrap I'm totally lost one coach punches like you the head coach makes me do what he calls two-legged punching where I kid you not both feet are flat on the floor minimal hip rotation so that rear leg does move forward that is how he teaches to us throw the RH. Why because he thinks that by rotating the hips its a weak punch and can be vulnerable to a counter to bad you weren't in Canada I would change so fast to your gym I'm crying as I write btw the head coach thinks your pure bollucks or Bullshit after I showed him your vids on YouTube.The provincial coach Silvio hates that punch and so does the technical coach both preferring your style, but I can't do anything because of the club coach. Please explain how do I tell the head coach that it's a good thing to lift up the back heel when punching?
    What lifts the back foot is the knee bending, stops you leaning.
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