Boxing Forums



User Tag List

Thanks Thanks:  0
Likes Likes:  0
Dislikes Dislikes:  0
Results 1 to 15 of 17

Thread: TREBUCHET AND WEASELS (bounders)

Share/Bookmark

Hybrid View

Previous Post Previous Post   Next Post Next Post
  1. #1
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    7,495
    Mentioned
    21 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2701
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: TREBUCHET AND WEASELS (bounders)

    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    You're doing a really bad job communicating what it is you're trying to say. Just to clarify, are you trying to argue that rotating the hips doesn't give you power?
    Appreciate that dialogue jms hips are only a small percentage of the equation the fascia Lata and the feet would be the main contributors.
    Hips don't contribute anything at all if you really wanna get technical. Hips are JOINTS, not muscles so they physically can't generate power. But that in no way implies that moving the hips isn't important. The feet push into the ground when being powered by muscles around the hips, which allows the ground to push back into the legs and cause the general area around the pelvis (hips) to move. Edit: and of course movement within the joint is absolutely critical to punching right, or doing anything right really.

    Also the fascia lata doesn't contribute either. It is, by definition, connective tissue. You're thinking the tfl, which is a muscle.
    Actually they contribute to everything Plus 95% of injuries occur because of them.
    Pain lasts a only a minute, but the memory will last forever....

    boxingbournemouth - Cornelius Carrs private boxing tuition and personal fitness training

  2. #2
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    170
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    589
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: TREBUCHET AND WEASELS (bounders)

    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    You're doing a really bad job communicating what it is you're trying to say. Just to clarify, are you trying to argue that rotating the hips doesn't give you power?
    Appreciate that dialogue jms hips are only a small percentage of the equation the fascia Lata and the feet would be the main contributors.
    Hips don't contribute anything at all if you really wanna get technical. Hips are JOINTS, not muscles so they physically can't generate power. But that in no way implies that moving the hips isn't important. The feet push into the ground when being powered by muscles around the hips, which allows the ground to push back into the legs and cause the general area around the pelvis (hips) to move. Edit: and of course movement within the joint is absolutely critical to punching right, or doing anything right really.

    Also the fascia lata doesn't contribute either. It is, by definition, connective tissue. You're thinking the tfl, which is a muscle.
    Actually they contribute to everything Plus 95% of injuries occur because of them.
    Scrap I mean in terms of power generation. As in neither the hips (joints) or fascia lata (connective tissue) contribute actual force. Only muscles can do that. The hips, fascia lata, and of course TFL are of course vital to a functional human body in general.

  3. #3
    Join Date
    Jun 2005
    Posts
    7,495
    Mentioned
    21 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    2701
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: TREBUCHET AND WEASELS (bounders)

    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Scrap View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    You're doing a really bad job communicating what it is you're trying to say. Just to clarify, are you trying to argue that rotating the hips doesn't give you power?
    Appreciate that dialogue jms hips are only a small percentage of the equation the fascia Lata and the feet would be the main contributors.
    Hips don't contribute anything at all if you really wanna get technical. Hips are JOINTS, not muscles so they physically can't generate power. But that in no way implies that moving the hips isn't important. The feet push into the ground when being powered by muscles around the hips, which allows the ground to push back into the legs and cause the general area around the pelvis (hips) to move. Edit: and of course movement within the joint is absolutely critical to punching right, or doing anything right really.

    Also the fascia lata doesn't contribute either. It is, by definition, connective tissue. You're thinking the tfl, which is a muscle.
    Actually they contribute to everything Plus 95% of injuries occur because of them.
    Scrap I mean in terms of power generation. As in neither the hips (joints) or fascia lata (connective tissue) contribute actual force. Only muscles can do that. The hips, fascia lata, and of course TFL are of course vital to a functional human body in general.
    But they do through touch and feel, its our structure that makes proprioceptive awareness, but i understand where you are coming from.
    Pain lasts a only a minute, but the memory will last forever....

    boxingbournemouth - Cornelius Carrs private boxing tuition and personal fitness training

  4. #4
    Join Date
    Aug 2014
    Posts
    268
    Mentioned
    1 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    572
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: TREBUCHET AND WEASELS (bounders)

    The power of Jack Dempsey I doubt many a man could with stand his onslaught. Here's a mathematical equation using the trebuchet to calculate why I'm KNOCK OUT artist at 16 4 guys never made it passed the first round. I don't know much about the mechanics of boxing so I'm using Virtual Trebuchet: A Web Based Trebuchet Simulator to understand my the projectile of my power. according to the equation my punch release volicity is 82.160 ft/s. Now if I could only find a real coach.

  5. #5
    Join Date
    May 2005
    Location
    McAllen, Texas?
    Posts
    5,504
    Mentioned
    177 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    1215
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: TREBUCHET AND WEASELS (bounders)

    Everything starts from the floor, and you cannot turn your hips through a punch if your feet are not in the right place. To get the muscles of your body lined up properly to torque your hips, your feet have to be right.

  6. #6
    Join Date
    Apr 2014
    Posts
    170
    Mentioned
    0 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    589
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: TREBUCHET AND WEASELS (bounders)

    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    The power of Jack Dempsey I doubt many a man could with stand his onslaught. Here's a mathematical equation using the trebuchet to calculate why I'm KNOCK OUT artist at 16 4 guys never made it passed the first round. I don't know much about the mechanics of boxing so I'm using Virtual Trebuchet: A Web Based Trebuchet Simulator to understand my the projectile of my power. according to the equation my punch release volicity is 82.160 ft/s. Now if I could only find a real coach.
    I'm very curious what inputs you used to accurately model your body in terms of a trebuchet...

  7. #7
    Join Date
    Aug 2003
    Location
    Up in the attic
    Posts
    26,468
    Mentioned
    448 Post(s)
    Tagged
    0 Thread(s)
    Punch Power
    4168
    Cool Clicks

    Default Re: TREBUCHET AND WEASELS (bounders)

    Quote Originally Posted by jms View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by BCBUD View Post
    The power of Jack Dempsey I doubt many a man could with stand his onslaught. Here's a mathematical equation using the trebuchet to calculate why I'm KNOCK OUT artist at 16 4 guys never made it passed the first round. I don't know much about the mechanics of boxing so I'm using Virtual Trebuchet: A Web Based Trebuchet Simulator to understand my the projectile of my power. according to the equation my punch release volicity is 82.160 ft/s. Now if I could only find a real coach.
    I'm very curious what inputs you used to accurately model your body in terms of a trebuchet...
    Yeah me too.
    Hidden Content " border="0" />

    I can explain it.
    But I cant understand it for you.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

     

Tags for this Thread

Bookmarks

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •  




Boxing | Boxing Photos | Boxing News | Boxing Forum | Boxing Rankings

Copyright © 2000 - 2025 Saddo Boxing - Boxing