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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
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    I don't give credence to your argument. Honestly, no kidding around, I believe you are just a really good troll who enjoys this back and forth. I just can't believe you are as dumb as you come across on here. You honestly say really stupid things constantly. No one who is as dumb as you seem could make it day to day, so you have to be trolling.

    This last post is a perfect example. If GGG was a fighter like say, Terry Norris in his prime, a fast boxer who could punch hard, then I would agree that Floyd's current condition and pace would be too much of a detriment. Against GGG, however, you are about as opposite of correct as you can be. GGG is a very balanced fighter, but he is a stalker who walks you down and is noticeably slower than Floyd. I can see Floyd staying on the outside and pot shotting and jabbing his way to a decision, similar to his wins over Oscar and Baldy. Pretty much everything you say I disagree with...
    Hmmm... Well I'm right about Floyd not fighting GGG and you can't even come up with arguments to counter my points aside from telling me I'm dumb.
    @ruthless rocco, not sure if you caught this...

    Kevin Iole, one of Mayweather's staunchest supporters, said this in his article on GGG:

    "But if you're among those who think it's outrageous to put Golovkin high up on this list, imagine the troulbe his pressure would give Mayweather. Marcos Maidana gave Mayweather a lot of problems with his pressure, which is nothing like the kind of pressure that Golovkin brings.

    I'm not suggesting that Mayweather should fight Golovkin or should be ridiculed if he declines to do so if such a bout is offered, because he is a welterweight and Golovkin is a middleweight. That said, it's not outrageous to suggest that they fight, because Mayweather does hold a 154-pound belt and Golovkin has repeatedly said he could make 154 pounds easily. If you're a 154-pound champion, then you should be ready, willing and able to fight anyone who can make the 154-pound limit."

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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

    It'd be interesting to see a 154 because you'd have to wonder how diminished GGG would be draining down there. Despite his insistence that he can make it no problem, the fact is he hasn't had to make it in over 10 years as far as I know, and making that cut in your early 20s and opposed to your early 30s is a different monster.

    A fight at 160 would be a suicide mission for Floyd. GGG would most likely retire him.

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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    It'd be interesting to see a 154 because you'd have to wonder how diminished GGG would be draining down there. Despite his insistence that he can make it no problem, the fact is he hasn't had to make it in over 10 years as far as I know, and making that cut in your early 20s and opposed to your early 30s is a different monster.

    A fight at 160 would be a suicide mission for Floyd. GGG would most likely retire him.
    @imp and @ruthless rocco seemed to suggest that it would be ridiculous for Floyd to face GGG. I'm simply that the notion isn't ridiculous because even established fight scribes, like Iole, who are big supporters of Mayweather, have said it isn't ridiculous.

    As far as the fight goes, how about a catch weight of 157?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    @imp and @ruthless rocco seemed to suggest that it would be ridiculous for Floyd to face GGG. I'm simply that the notion isn't ridiculous because even established fight scribes, like Iole, who are big supporters of Mayweather, have said it isn't ridiculous.

    As far as the fight goes, how about a catch weight of 157?
    At this point in Floyd's career, it would be ridiculous. He's been on a steady decline for the last few years and just doesn't have the legs to carry him to a win. Jumping up to fight a killer two weight classes above you in a move for a young man, not a guy on the way out.

    I don't think a catch weight on 157 would do much to favour Floyd. His only chance would be if GGG has a really hard cut to 154 and comes in flat (like a Ward/Dawson scenario).

    Floyd's going to look for a couple of respectable but "safer" fights and try to get out undefeated at this point. Maybe a big rematch with Cotto for the MW title.

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    Default Re: If Floyd never fights Manny...

    I agree that from Floyd's perspective Cotto is the ideal opponent and provides the most reward vs least risk. It will add to his legacy because Cotto is the legit middle champ (although not the best at that weight, or even close to it) and Cotto has a ton of hype and looks "refreshed" because of his last two wins/excellent match making. Cotto isn't any better today than he was prior to Roach training him, and will lose another decision to Floyd, although by a closer margin due to Floyd slipping a little.

    I think GGG can make 154 and remain effective, but Floyd is really a 140 pounder who fights at higher weights. Can't really blame Floyd for not pushing or making the GGG fight, but it is the fight I would like to see most as I think Floyd has a good shot at winning, even with his recent decline. Doubt Floyd makes the GGG fight though, and look for him to take on the Canelo/Cotto winner n retire.

    I think it is a HUGE black mark on Floyd's record that he never fought Manny, especially during their primes. Great fighters go out of their way to make the biggest fights. Look at Leonard, Ali, Hagler, Duran and even Hopkins. It's why I think Hop, in the long run and despite less consistency than Floyd (and Roy), be ranked higher historically. Think about it: none of those guys ever had a perceived major threat that they didn't fight.

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