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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Yeah, people dog modern guys who hold, clinch, and foul but guys like Muhammad Ali and Sugar Ray Robinson did that shit all time.
    That's true! I think the average boxing fan of today is more knowledgable or, at least, wants to see a level playing field.
    I think most of the excessive holding is do to piss poor refereeing. Ali used to hit and hold, hit and hold round after round and it did make me mad but I'd be just as disgusted with the referee.
    Boxing is a brutal sport and protecting yourself by holding is something we have to put up with to a point. It's the referees job to hold it to an acceptable level.
    Yes, Ali should have lost plenty of points for holding and I blame the referees for not taking them.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    I just don't see Clay as the best HW ever , let alone best fighter ever. I didn't care for his style at all.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Cassius Clay

    Had more stinkeroo's than good performances.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Cassius Clay

    Had more stinkeroo's than good performances.
    @Bill Paxtom you need to learn how to properly use the apostrophe.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Points that should have been deducted.

    Cassius Clay

    -1 ..... vs. Alonzo Johnson > {Running and Non-action}
    -1 ..... vs. George Logan > {Possible Disqualification > Intentional thumbing}
    -1 ..... vs. Archie Moore > {Holding and Hitting}
    -1 ..... vs. Doug Jones > {Holding and Hitting}
    -1 ..... vs. Sonny Liston > {Excessive Holding > Round 5}

    -1 ..... vs. George Chuvalo > {Intentional Holding and Hitting}
    -2 ..... vs. Ernie Terrell > {Intentional Thumbing, and Cuffing}

    -1 ..... vs. Ken Norton I > {Illegal Punch}
    -7 ..... vs. Joe Frazier II > {Excessive Holding}
    -2 ..... vs. Ron Lyle > {Clowning and not exhibiting Professional Behavior}
    -1 ..... vs. Alfredo Evangelista > {Clowning}
    -2 ..... vs. Larry Holmes > {Not even trying to fight back}
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 10-29-2014 at 09:56 PM.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Points that should have been deducted.

    Cassius Clay

    -1 ..... vs. Alonzo Johnson > {Running and Non-action}
    -1 ..... vs. George Logan > {Possible Disqualification > Intentional thumbing}
    -1 ..... vs. Archie Moore > {Holding and Hitting}
    -1 ..... vs. Doug Jones > {Holding and Hitting}
    -1 ..... vs. Sonny Liston > {Excessive Holding > Round 5}

    -1 ..... vs. George Chuvalo > {Intentional Holding and Hitting}
    -2 ..... vs. Ernie Terrell > {Intentional Thumbing, and Cuffing}

    -1 ..... vs. Ken Norton I > {Illegal Punch}
    -7 ..... vs. Joe Frazier II > {Excessive Holding}
    -2 ..... vs. Ron Lyle > {Clowning and not exhibiting Professional Behavior}
    -1 ..... vs. Alfredo Evangelista > {Clowning}
    -2 ..... vs. Larry Holmes > {Not even trying to fight back}
    Sounds about right........

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    What type of cunt quotes himself and agrees with himself?

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Forget you all. Ali is the greatest. You are all fools for agreeing with Bill. That alone tells you you are deluded.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Nada eh~!

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    could Bill be one of George's kids? Nahhh he's from Connnecticut but GF is from Texas.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    One of the dirtiest of his era. Like watching the garbage Floyd got away with against Hatton in every other fight but not even in the top 50 ever.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    If a Muhammad Ali bout was on Television.

    We switched over to watch re-runs of 'I Love Lucy'.

    Nearly everyone of Ali's bouts were scripted, much like 'I Love Lucy'

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    If a Muhammad Ali bout was on Television.

    We switched over to watch re-runs of 'I Love Lucy'.

    Nearly everyone of Ali's bouts were scripted, much like 'I Love Lucy'
    Agreed. Esp. the Lyle bout and the 3rd Norton bout, total b.s. it was definitely choreographed. Refs paid off if anything went wrong.

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