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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Cassius Clay

    Had more stinkeroo's than good performances.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Cassius Clay

    Had more stinkeroo's than good performances.
    @Bill Paxtom you need to learn how to properly use the apostrophe.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Points that should have been deducted.

    Cassius Clay

    -1 ..... vs. Alonzo Johnson > {Running and Non-action}
    -1 ..... vs. George Logan > {Possible Disqualification > Intentional thumbing}
    -1 ..... vs. Archie Moore > {Holding and Hitting}
    -1 ..... vs. Doug Jones > {Holding and Hitting}
    -1 ..... vs. Sonny Liston > {Excessive Holding > Round 5}

    -1 ..... vs. George Chuvalo > {Intentional Holding and Hitting}
    -2 ..... vs. Ernie Terrell > {Intentional Thumbing, and Cuffing}

    -1 ..... vs. Ken Norton I > {Illegal Punch}
    -7 ..... vs. Joe Frazier II > {Excessive Holding}
    -2 ..... vs. Ron Lyle > {Clowning and not exhibiting Professional Behavior}
    -1 ..... vs. Alfredo Evangelista > {Clowning}
    -2 ..... vs. Larry Holmes > {Not even trying to fight back}
    Last edited by Bill Paxtom; 10-29-2014 at 09:56 PM.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    Points that should have been deducted.

    Cassius Clay

    -1 ..... vs. Alonzo Johnson > {Running and Non-action}
    -1 ..... vs. George Logan > {Possible Disqualification > Intentional thumbing}
    -1 ..... vs. Archie Moore > {Holding and Hitting}
    -1 ..... vs. Doug Jones > {Holding and Hitting}
    -1 ..... vs. Sonny Liston > {Excessive Holding > Round 5}

    -1 ..... vs. George Chuvalo > {Intentional Holding and Hitting}
    -2 ..... vs. Ernie Terrell > {Intentional Thumbing, and Cuffing}

    -1 ..... vs. Ken Norton I > {Illegal Punch}
    -7 ..... vs. Joe Frazier II > {Excessive Holding}
    -2 ..... vs. Ron Lyle > {Clowning and not exhibiting Professional Behavior}
    -1 ..... vs. Alfredo Evangelista > {Clowning}
    -2 ..... vs. Larry Holmes > {Not even trying to fight back}
    Sounds about right........

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    What type of cunt quotes himself and agrees with himself?

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    What type of cunt quotes himself and agrees with himself?
    Sounds about right........

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AdamGB View Post
    What type of cunt quotes himself and agrees with himself?
    Sounds about right........
    haha but you gotta admit if he quoted himself and DISAGREED with himself it would be REALLY messed up!

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Forget you all. Ali is the greatest. You are all fools for agreeing with Bill. That alone tells you you are deluded.
    Do not let success go to your head and do not let failure get to your heart.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Nada eh~!

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    could Bill be one of George's kids? Nahhh he's from Connnecticut but GF is from Texas.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    One of the dirtiest of his era. Like watching the garbage Floyd got away with against Hatton in every other fight but not even in the top 50 ever.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    If a Muhammad Ali bout was on Television.

    We switched over to watch re-runs of 'I Love Lucy'.

    Nearly everyone of Ali's bouts were scripted, much like 'I Love Lucy'

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Paxtom View Post
    If a Muhammad Ali bout was on Television.

    We switched over to watch re-runs of 'I Love Lucy'.

    Nearly everyone of Ali's bouts were scripted, much like 'I Love Lucy'
    Agreed. Esp. the Lyle bout and the 3rd Norton bout, total b.s. it was definitely choreographed. Refs paid off if anything went wrong.

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    Default Re: how many points should Ali have lost fouling?

    In Ali/Frazier II, Ali initiated and clutched Frazier 147 times with not a single point taken by tony perez.

    However, perez also called a premature end to rd 2 just when Ali stunned Frazier.
    Frazier was let off the hook there and was given time to recover because of tony's incompetence.

    I know these things because I decided to take out a sheet and score that fight a few years ago. Horrible excuse for a fight. I don't recommend trying to score it.

    Ali and Frazier are certainly Legends and their other 2 fights are classics along with several of their other battles against other outstanding fighters ... but their 2nd fight, though hyped and ballyhooed to the public, held at Madison Square Garden and broadcast on Closed-Circuit tv, failed to deliver and turned out to be pure crapola which had everything to do with Ali's holding tactics that night and nothing to do with Frazier who always brought the fight to his opponent.



    ps I never said I agreed with Bill. I was talking about that one fight with all the excessive holding.

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