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Well I don't think there's any real logical way anyone can rank GGG above a guy like Floyd or Andre Ward P4P right now. GGG has fought a bunch of good guys and totally destroyed them, but he hasn't yet gotten that BIG fight that would put him over the top, like a fight with Ward, Froch, or Martinez pre-Cotto would have.

In Floyd, his resume speaks for itself and in Andre, you have a guy who's completely cleaned out his division by winning the Super 8, and the division he cleaned out was a very tough division.

My biggest gripe is with Pac being top 3. A guy who's 2-2 in his last 4 shouldn't be top 3 IMO.
Can see your point with Pac, but feel that he is 3-1 (even though judges ripped him off) and was actually starting to put on serious pressure n damage prior to JMM catching him with that monster shot. He beat the previously #3 P4P undefeated Bradley in his previous fight, so it makes sense. If you are being honest, a Manny has consistently taken on much superior opposition than Floyd.
Superior how? Floyd took on a better version of Oscar, a better version of Hatton and a better version of Mosley. These things are undeniable. It can be argued who fought the better version of Cotto because of Cotto being at a comfortable weight against Floyd. If Floyd would have fought JMM 4 times we would kill him but Manny gets credit, it's a bias you don't care to see. Alvarez would beat everyone Manny has every fought because of size or the fact they were used up. Algieri, GTFOOH. Bradley, okay, he is a good fighter with a great heart. Manny had a nice run, legendary even but it was a run. His opponents have been weaker than Floyd's for years. And his opponents were weaker earlier in their careers for years. Many certainly had the superior middle stretch and by a wide margin. But you speak of consistency, it's plum f'n illogical. Consistency doesn't even equate. Floyd was #2 P4P in 1998(perhaps it was 99), 16 years later he is number 1 and it's all based on consistency. You can't give Manny props over Floyd in every f'n thing. You can in many but certainly not consistency.