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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
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    I think history will look more favourably on Pac though.
    I'm not sure what would make anyone think that.

    I don't see any real difference in level of opposition, and nobody has really explained to me why Pac's opposition was any better.

    Floyd has surpassed Pac in every category you could think of, besides likeability.

    If both retired tomorrow, we've seen Pac beaten and/or knocked out in every stage of his career, whereas Floyd has never lost. Floyd was the bigger star, the bigger draw, made a lot more money and has never had a true equal in the ring.

    Pac beat up a prime Barrera and beat (and lost to) a Morales that was close to the end of his rope. That puts him head and shoulders above Floyd? I just can't see it.
    I already went down the list buddy. Floyd's top wins r Chico, Hatton and Castillo. All three were prime, Chico n Hatton P4P, Castillo wasn't ranked P4P when they fought and he should have won the first fight vs Floyd. So, Manny has taken on better competition at every stage of his career, and when u do that u end up with losses. I'm writing this on my phone so when I get home tonight I will gladly write a more inclusive and detailed break down. Bottom Line: Floyd fought two guys ranked P4P at the time he fought them. Manny fought multiple guys who I listed ranked when he fought them. He also fought much bigger men who were favorites to beat him at the time of the fight. If u can't see it, nothing is going to change ur mind. U just want to feel Floyd fought better guys.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    I'm writing this on my phone so when I get home tonight I will gladly write a more inclusive and detailed break down. Bottom Line: Floyd fought two guys ranked P4P at the time he fought them. Manny fought multiple guys who I listed ranked when he fought them. He also fought much bigger men who were favorites to beat him at the time of the fight.
    Well I look forward to your breakdown.

    I think you're wrong that Floyd only fought two guys ranked p4p at the time he fought them. I think you might be surprised.

    People dog Floyd for fighting Mosley, but did you know that he was the #2 ranked WW at the time and the #3 ranked p4p of the time by Ring magazine (behind only Pac and Floyd)?

    The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2009 - BoxRec

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by mikeeod View Post
    I'm writing this on my phone so when I get home tonight I will gladly write a more inclusive and detailed break down. Bottom Line: Floyd fought two guys ranked P4P at the time he fought them. Manny fought multiple guys who I listed ranked when he fought them. He also fought much bigger men who were favorites to beat him at the time of the fight.
    Well I look forward to your breakdown.

    I think you're wrong that Floyd only fought two guys ranked p4p at the time he fought them. I think you might be surprised.

    People dog Floyd for fighting Mosley, but did you know that he was the #2 ranked WW at the time and the #3 ranked p4p of the time by Ring magazine (behind only Pac and Floyd)?

    The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings: 2009 - BoxRec
    Did not remember that Shane was ranked P4P #3 at that time, good catch! Still, Even including Shane who is a HOFer, Manny beat and fought more top ranked guys during their prime. I will break it down later. Good catch, I tip my hat to u.

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