Those are absolutely systems. It literally isn't even open for debate man. The people who teach those have answers for everything built into what they teach. I'd argue that pretty much every great trainer has a system whether they name it or not. I pointed those two out because they're likely the most famous. Just because you only see some patterns doesn't mean the whole system isn't there, because the system is definitely there. I mean even you calling them styles is wrong, because different guys trained in those systems still fight/fought different ways, with their own styles.


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