Floyd's competition vs Manny's competition

[imp]

Comparing Manny and Floyd is like comparing Floyd to fighters from different eras, they just aint gonna fight and we dont really know who would win. Flod is big fav but Ive always maintained speed and movement could cause Floyd to struggle. Thats why I give Khan a great chance against him, a better chance than I would give him of beating Pac.

As for Floyds opposition being much superior to Pacs well if we look at their last 7.

Floyd has Mosly who was well past it, Ortiz who is noy good, Cotto who got obliterated by Pac (easier than Floyd did) Guerrero who again is average, Alavarez (his best opponent) who I again dont rate at that level as I feel he should have lost to Lara and anyone strugling with Trout isnt going to be a match for Floyd and then Maidana twice who in my opinoin was not worthy of a fight with Floyd once let alone twice.

Pac has Margarito nothing special but is as good as Maidana, Mosely shot, Marquez as good as anyone on the floyds list, Bradley twice again as good as anyone on Floyds list and Rios who is just shit.

Mosely just beat the monster margacheato and floyd schooled him.
Manny beat a shot paycheck moseley.

Floyd ko a prime undefeated hatton,
Pac ko a shot defeated hatton.

Ortiz is better than rios
Rios is shit (i agree)

Pac beat a catchweight cotto (good win)
Floyd beat a cotto at his weight.

Maidana would beat margacheato and beats all of pacs opponents bar cotto (possibly)

Canelo would beat all of pacs opponents!
Pac wouldnt even entertain a canelo fight.

This back and forth could go on for ages but no matter how you look at it whether its an inch or a mile..winning is winning...and floyd shines in the above.

Floyd would easily beat marquez and bradley and everyone knows that!!

Ortiz lost to Lopez who is as bad as they come at top level. Rios would beat Ortiz because Ortiz cant box smart and he has no chin. Pac beat Hatton at Hattons proper weight and didnt make him step up to a weight class he wasnt strong in. Canelo wouldnt beat Marquez or Bradley especially if he was weight drained like he was against Floyd. He just isnt that good at all. Maidana couldnt beat Kotelnik or Khan and struggled with a shot Morales. Again he aint coming close to beating Bradley or Marquez. Stop being a twat.

Mikeeod makes a much better arguement than you silky joe.

It was only a few threads ago when every saddo member exposed you for calling marquez win against pac a lucky punch.

No one is saying pac is not a great fighter..im merely pointing out that floyd would never loose to those opponents and is the more complete fighter.

Pac would be "up" to fight floyd but isnt floyd "up" to fight all his opponents.

So canelo would not beat marquez or bradley at the catchweight that canelos team demanded?
Are you loco?

Floyd should never have fought canelo at a catchweight as we all know he criticised manny for it and the last round he had against maidana was appalling and that was running!

Either way, I dont have to curse or call people names to get my point across, son.

Im not argueing whos the better fighter, as I have said countless times before its clearly Floyd. This thread is about whos opponents have been better and all I have said is the truth, that they are about par judging by their last 7 opponents. And no Canelo did not demand Floyd to fight at a catchweight rather than the normal LMW limit.

It depends what you call a lucky punch. Throwing that same punch 1000 times against Pac how many times does he land and KO Pac? 5? 10? Id call that lucky if you are landing a 1 or 2 percenter. Most people who criticised me calling it lucky said there is no luck in boxing and no such thing as a lucky punch. I Just dont believe that.

When garcia dropped khan...was that lucky?

[mikeeod]

Comparing Manny and Floyd is like comparing Floyd to fighters from different eras, they just aint gonna fight and we dont really know who would win. Flod is big fav but Ive always maintained speed and movement could cause Floyd to struggle. Thats why I give Khan a great chance against him, a better chance than I would give him of beating Pac.

As for Floyds opposition being much superior to Pacs well if we look at their last 7.

Floyd has Mosly who was well past it, Ortiz who is noy good, Cotto who got obliterated by Pac (easier than Floyd did) Guerrero who again is average, Alavarez (his best opponent) who I again dont rate at that level as I feel he should have lost to Lara and anyone strugling with Trout isnt going to be a match for Floyd and then Maidana twice who in my opinoin was not worthy of a fight with Floyd once let alone twice.

Pac has Margarito nothing special but is as good as Maidana, Mosely shot, Marquez as good as anyone on the floyds list, Bradley twice again as good as anyone on Floyds list and Rios who is just shit.

Mosely just beat the monster margacheato and floyd schooled him.
Manny beat a shot paycheck moseley.

Floyd ko a prime undefeated hatton,
Pac ko a shot defeated hatton.

Ortiz is better than rios
Rios is shit (i agree)

Pac beat a catchweight cotto (good win)
Floyd beat a cotto at his weight.

Maidana would beat margacheato and beats all of pacs opponents bar cotto (possibly)

Canelo would beat all of pacs opponents!
Pac wouldnt even entertain a canelo fight.

This back and forth could go on for ages but no matter how you look at it whether its an inch or a mile..winning is winning...and floyd shines in the above.

Floyd would easily beat marquez and bradley and everyone knows that!!

Ortiz lost to Lopez who is as bad as they come at top level. Rios would beat Ortiz because Ortiz cant box smart and he has no chin. Pac beat Hatton at Hattons proper weight and didnt make him step up to a weight class he wasnt strong in. Canelo wouldnt beat Marquez or Bradley especially if he was weight drained like he was against Floyd. He just isnt that good at all. Maidana couldnt beat Kotelnik or Khan and struggled with a shot Morales. Again he aint coming close to beating Bradley or Marquez. Stop being a twat.

Mikeeod makes a much better arguement than you silky joe.

It was only a few threads ago when every saddo member exposed you for calling marquez win against pac a lucky punch.

No one is saying pac is not a great fighter..im merely pointing out that floyd would never loose to those opponents and is the more complete fighter.

Pac would be "up" to fight floyd but isnt floyd "up" to fight all his opponents.

So canelo would not beat marquez or bradley at the catchweight that canelos team demanded?
Are you loco?

Floyd should never have fought canelo at a catchweight as we all know he criticised manny for it and the last round he had against maidana was appalling and that was running!

Either way, I dont have to curse or call people names to get my point across, son.

Im not argueing whos the better fighter, as I have said countless times before its clearly Floyd. This thread is about whos opponents have been better and all I have said is the truth, that they are about par judging by their last 7 opponents. And no Canelo did not demand Floyd to fight at a catchweight rather than the normal LMW limit.

It depends what you call a lucky punch. Throwing that same punch 1000 times against Pac how many times does he land and KO Pac? 5? 10? Id call that lucky if you are landing a 1 or 2 percenter. Most people who criticised me calling it lucky said there is no luck in boxing and no such thing as a lucky punch. I Just dont believe that.

When garcia dropped khan...was that lucky?

Hate to jump back in this discussion, but I don't think Garcia set his hook up like JMM did the right. Both shots were the result of the other guys (Manny and Khan) being too aggressive and not keeping their defense tight. As wild as Khan was, I would say that eventually a hook was going to land as he was literally just loading up to take Garcia's head off with every shot. The counter that turned out Manny's lights was different than the shot landed earlier in the fight by JMM, so I'm not sure if I characterize the punch as lucky or just a shot that was set up really well...

[Silkeyjoe]

Comparing Manny and Floyd is like comparing Floyd to fighters from different eras, they just aint gonna fight and we dont really know who would win. Flod is big fav but Ive always maintained speed and movement could cause Floyd to struggle. Thats why I give Khan a great chance against him, a better chance than I would give him of beating Pac.

As for Floyds opposition being much superior to Pacs well if we look at their last 7.

Floyd has Mosly who was well past it, Ortiz who is noy good, Cotto who got obliterated by Pac (easier than Floyd did) Guerrero who again is average, Alavarez (his best opponent) who I again dont rate at that level as I feel he should have lost to Lara and anyone strugling with Trout isnt going to be a match for Floyd and then Maidana twice who in my opinoin was not worthy of a fight with Floyd once let alone twice.

Pac has Margarito nothing special but is as good as Maidana, Mosely shot, Marquez as good as anyone on the floyds list, Bradley twice again as good as anyone on Floyds list and Rios who is just shit.

Mosely just beat the monster margacheato and floyd schooled him.
Manny beat a shot paycheck moseley.

Floyd ko a prime undefeated hatton,
Pac ko a shot defeated hatton.

Ortiz is better than rios
Rios is shit (i agree)

Pac beat a catchweight cotto (good win)
Floyd beat a cotto at his weight.

Maidana would beat margacheato and beats all of pacs opponents bar cotto (possibly)

Canelo would beat all of pacs opponents!
Pac wouldnt even entertain a canelo fight.

This back and forth could go on for ages but no matter how you look at it whether its an inch or a mile..winning is winning...and floyd shines in the above.

Floyd would easily beat marquez and bradley and everyone knows that!!

Ortiz lost to Lopez who is as bad as they come at top level. Rios would beat Ortiz because Ortiz cant box smart and he has no chin. Pac beat Hatton at Hattons proper weight and didnt make him step up to a weight class he wasnt strong in. Canelo wouldnt beat Marquez or Bradley especially if he was weight drained like he was against Floyd. He just isnt that good at all. Maidana couldnt beat Kotelnik or Khan and struggled with a shot Morales. Again he aint coming close to beating Bradley or Marquez. Stop being a twat.

Mikeeod makes a much better arguement than you silky joe.

It was only a few threads ago when every saddo member exposed you for calling marquez win against pac a lucky punch.

No one is saying pac is not a great fighter..im merely pointing out that floyd would never loose to those opponents and is the more complete fighter.

Pac would be "up" to fight floyd but isnt floyd "up" to fight all his opponents.

So canelo would not beat marquez or bradley at the catchweight that canelos team demanded?
Are you loco?

Floyd should never have fought canelo at a catchweight as we all know he criticised manny for it and the last round he had against maidana was appalling and that was running!

Either way, I dont have to curse or call people names to get my point across, son.

Im not argueing whos the better fighter, as I have said countless times before its clearly Floyd. This thread is about whos opponents have been better and all I have said is the truth, that they are about par judging by their last 7 opponents. And no Canelo did not demand Floyd to fight at a catchweight rather than the normal LMW limit.

It depends what you call a lucky punch. Throwing that same punch 1000 times against Pac how many times does he land and KO Pac? 5? 10? Id call that lucky if you are landing a 1 or 2 percenter. Most people who criticised me calling it lucky said there is no luck in boxing and no such thing as a lucky punch. I Just dont believe that.

When garcia dropped khan...was that lucky?

A bit. Khan was overconfident and should never have been caught with that punch. He was lucky it landed where it did and Khan couldnt recover, if it just buzzed him I think it would have made him fight more conservatively and beat Garcia easily. I believe quite a lot of one punch KO punches are lucky