Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscurity

[ykdadamaja]

I'm just now learning about Charlie Burley- only one piece of clip on him, but he seemed sound- SRR claimed he was too pretty to fight him? Wow.

Great call on who named Francesco Bojado. I can't figure out...what happened?
It seemed GBP gave him a solid fighter with limited punching power in Steve Forbes as a final shot- and Forbes I remember that fight...brought his azz to the table. Panchito didn't look bad at all in that fight, rather Forbes delivered a spectacular showing. Humble kid, sound skills; was the matchmaking to tough to early? I dunno, but I thought he was the real-deal.

Jorge Linares may not be an A rated fighter, but I feel on a grade level he is about a B+ or A-.
He was boxing Demarco sound, real clinic, then Demarco's corner does a Dundee ala Ray Leonard vs Hearns and told him- "this is where we separate the boys from the men...ya blowin' it kid"
Damn Demarco brought out a trunk of funk...Real desparate comeback and busted up Linares outta nowhere.



Carlos Quintana- Joel Julio should have never fought this unknown, and when he did, I remember the commentators stating they were fighting in 90 plus degree condition and Quintana's footwork was tremendous, his stamina; on full. Defense, solid. He moved, pivoted, shoulder roll, this guy was showing all the goods & respectable punching power started backing Julio up. I (KNEW) Quintana was gonna be a major force.

Then Cotto busted him up in four rounds: Not so much that Quintana is chinny, but rather his skin isn't durable, he simply busts up easy.

He gave a great- performance against Paul in their first fight, but it was all downhill for Quintana after that.

There is a bad- I mean bad kid from Arizona. Mexican But I can't think of his name. Roach got him for a minute, then he hurt himself and he has been on the shelf. Tall, thin..he should have been a marquee name by now...I am kicking myself that I cant think of his name. He is still undefeated, but he is doing an Andre Ward: he is a ghost. He is likely to fade away if he doesnt do something real soon.

Can anyone help me on this one? Mexican. Fights out of Arizona, About a lightweight. Punching power in BOTH hands. But is on the shelf for the past two years.

José Benavidez. He has hand problems, just like Prince Naseem- the power he generates is just too great for his brittle hands.

[nuggetdotcom]

UK wise I would suggest Errol Christie, showing my age a bit.

[Master]

UK wise I would suggest Errol Christie, showing my age a bit.

Good one, did he beat or fight Leonard? He certainly got compared to him.

[nuggetdotcom]

UK wise I would suggest Errol Christie, showing my age a bit.

Good one, did he beat or fight Leonard? He certainly got compared to him.

Very stylish and impressive, lost to Mark Kaylor and Michael Watson (amongst others) he was a real up and coming prospect, and all of a sudden became easy to hit, just lost it, shame. Hope he's doing allright now.

[holmcall]

Tony Ayala

[holmcall]

Ricardo Williams

[Fenster]

Pele Reid.

[Vendettos]

Tony Ayala

^^ Kinda his own fault.


For me Jerry Quarry has to be up there, purely because he had sufficient talent and he was around in what will be remembered as the greatest HW area.

He just didn't manage to make an impact in the big fights, if he had of won just one of those big fights he would be as big as Foreman, Fraizer and Liston.

And maybe, just maybe, he'd appear in a god damn Fight Night game.

[greynotsoold]

This guy has to be on the list.
Marshall Martinez - Boxer
His mom used to drive him to East LA every day to train at DLH's gym. He was disqualified in the Olympic Trials for slapping with his punches but still got a big signing bonus to turn pro. Nothing but attitude problems and he really loved being a Fontana hood hero.

[Bill Paxtom]

Willie de Witt

Canadian Amateur Champion

Had the 'goods' in the Amateur's and was thought to be a 'Star' in the Pro Ranks.

He did the old 'Canadian Flap-Jack'.

[Violent Demise]

This guy has to be on the list.
Marshall Martinez - Boxer
His mom used to drive him to East LA every day to train at DLH's gym. He was disqualified in the Olympic Trials for slapping with his punches but still got a big signing bonus to turn pro. Nothing but attitude problems and he really loved being a Fontana hood hero.

Currently serving a 35 year sentence. He was the complete opposite of his cousin Steven Luevano. And more talented. Martinez beat Miguel Cotto in the amateurs. But he just couldn't stay out of trouble. When Ricardo Williams was busted selling coke Marshall Martinez was busted with him

[SlimTrae]

I'm just now learning about Charlie Burley- only one piece of clip on him, but he seemed sound- SRR claimed he was too pretty to fight him? Wow.

Great call on who named Francesco Bojado. I can't figure out...what happened?
It seemed GBP gave him a solid fighter with limited punching power in Steve Forbes as a final shot- and Forbes I remember that fight...brought his azz to the table. Panchito didn't look bad at all in that fight, rather Forbes delivered a spectacular showing. Humble kid, sound skills; was the matchmaking to tough to early? I dunno, but I thought he was the real-deal.

Jorge Linares may not be an A rated fighter, but I feel on a grade level he is about a B+ or A-.
He was boxing Demarco sound, real clinic, then Demarco's corner does a Dundee ala Ray Leonard vs Hearns and told him- "this is where we separate the boys from the men...ya blowin' it kid"
Damn Demarco brought out a trunk of funk...Real desparate comeback and busted up Linares outta nowhere.



Carlos Quintana- Joel Julio should have never fought this unknown, and when he did, I remember the commentators stating they were fighting in 90 plus degree condition and Quintana's footwork was tremendous, his stamina; on full. Defense, solid. He moved, pivoted, shoulder roll, this guy was showing all the goods & respectable punching power started backing Julio up. I (KNEW) Quintana was gonna be a major force.

Then Cotto busted him up in four rounds: Not so much that Quintana is chinny, but rather his skin isn't durable, he simply busts up easy.

He gave a great- performance against Paul in their first fight, but it was all downhill for Quintana after that.

There is a bad- I mean bad kid from Arizona. Mexican But I can't think of his name. Roach got him for a minute, then he hurt himself and he has been on the shelf. Tall, thin..he should have been a marquee name by now...I am kicking myself that I cant think of his name. He is still undefeated, but he is doing an Andre Ward: he is a ghost. He is likely to fade away if he doesnt do something real soon.

Can anyone help me on this one? Mexican. Fights out of Arizona, About a lightweight. Punching power in BOTH hands. But is on the shelf for the past two years.

José Benavidez. He has hand problems, just like Prince Naseem- the power he generates is just too great for his brittle hands.

Damn shame, but appreciate the update...

[El Kabong]

Leon Taylor, THAT's who I was thinking of!!!

Jason Keidel: Brooklyn's Taylor may be greatest fighter never known - Boxing - SI.com




Apparently Taylor gave Michael Spinks absolute nightmares in sparring