Who is the most talented boxer to never achieve anything and fade away into obscurity

[holmcall]

Ricardo Williams

[Fenster]

Pele Reid.

[Kirkland Laing]

I think Kirkland Laing was incredibly gifted, but was not sufficiently driven

If he'd turned up for training once in a while he could have been something special.

[Kirkland Laing]

Scratch the last one, there is hope for him. I called him a top prospect in 2012 and he only fought once in 2013. But per boxrec he has been active in 2014 Jose Benavidez.

4 years: only 21 fights welter being brought along too slow IMO- unless he is injruy prone-set to face Muarico Herrera.

In addition to the hand problems he also looks to have a glass jaw. He got caught by a non-puncher in one of his recent fights and was out on his feet. How he survived the round I don't know. He was still wobbled at the end of the fight. His jab is a thing of beauty though.

[Bill Paxtom]

* Jose 'The Threat' Baret
* Gerry Cooney
* Jim 'King' Fletcher

[SlimTrae]

Scratch the last one, there is hope for him. I called him a top prospect in 2012 and he only fought once in 2013. But per boxrec he has been active in 2014 Jose Benavidez.

4 years: only 21 fights welter being brought along too slow IMO- unless he is injruy prone-set to face Muarico Herrera.

In addition to the hand problems he also looks to have a glass jaw. He got caught by a non-puncher in one of his recent fights and was out on his feet. How he survived the round I don't know. He was still wobbled at the end of the fight. His jab is a thing of beauty though.

A Latin Hearns?
I remember Gil Clancey commentating on Barkley-Hearns "The one thing about a Hearns fight, you know Somebody is gonna get knocked out."

[Bill Paxtom]

Bobby Joe Young

[SlimTrae]

I know this thread is about talent- but when I went to see Dirrell vs Abraham , on the undercard I saw the most devastating KO I could think of in person ..I knew no one would give this guy a shot.

Two weeks later I read Roach was going to train him and I thought this unkown named Lateef Kayode was going to be a monster.

Too strong to not be a force, but time has shown he is lacking something that will prevent him from making it to the top.

Is Roach the wrong trainer or is he just a plodder with power?

I can't think of anyone with that kind of power, that seems bound to fade into obscurity.
Who punches that hard...and still can't make a dent in the rankings?

[C.J.Rock]

Charlie Burley, Sam Langford, and there was a story written about some guy who trained with Tyson and was amazing but drugs, crime, et cetera ruined him.


Also Ibeabuchi and Amir Mansour may have had the talent to do something but never accomplished anything. Ron Lyle only for the fact he started boxing too late.

Ike Ibeabuchi was headed for the title he'd eat the Klitschko's for lunch. His big mistake was calling that lying greedy hooker. That led to him being railroaded & jailed. He was kept 14 months heavily sedated because they were scared of what he MIGHT do.without being charged. No wonder he had mental problems

[Spicoli]

What about a Paul Gonzalez.

[Vendettos]

Oba Carr was the most talented fighter I ever saw that did not become a world champion. His boxing skills were outstanding.

Tbh I disagree that he was wasted talent, I believe he just wasn't talented enough.

He stepped up to world title fights like 3 or 4 times and got knocked out every time.

[Vendettos]

Tony Ayala

^^ Kinda his own fault.


For me Jerry Quarry has to be up there, purely because he had sufficient talent and he was around in what will be remembered as the greatest HW area.

He just didn't manage to make an impact in the big fights, if he had of won just one of those big fights he would be as big as Foreman, Fraizer and Liston.

And maybe, just maybe, he'd appear in a god damn Fight Night game.

[El Kabong]

Ike Ibeabuchi was headed for the title he'd eat the Klitschko's for lunch. His big mistake was calling that lying greedy hooker. That led to him being railroaded & jailed. He was kept 14 months heavily sedated because they were scared of what he MIGHT do.without being charged. No wonder he had mental problems

Soooo you don't know about how he abducted the son of his ex girlfriend and then drove his car into a bridge abutment shortly after the Tua fight? Or how he sexually assaulted a few strippers and was then declared mentally incompetent to stand trial?

He "had mental problems" because he's bipolar and was unmedicated/self medicating at the time.

Ibeabuchi looked spectacular...but there have been a few Nigerian heavyweights to look unstoppable only to turn out to be pedestrian: Sam Peter, David Izon, Friday Ahunaya, Duncan Dokiwari, Lateef Kayode.

[Kirkland Laing]

Scratch the last one, there is hope for him. I called him a top prospect in 2012 and he only fought once in 2013. But per boxrec he has been active in 2014 Jose Benavidez.

4 years: only 21 fights welter being brought along too slow IMO- unless he is injruy prone-set to face Muarico Herrera.

In addition to the hand problems he also looks to have a glass jaw. He got caught by a non-puncher in one of his recent fights and was out on his feet. How he survived the round I don't know. He was still wobbled at the end of the fight. His jab is a thing of beauty though.

A Latin Hearns?
I remember Gil Clancey commentating on Barkley-Hearns "The one thing about a Hearns fight, you know Somebody is gonna get knocked out."

Hearns had that right hand though. Hearns would be a massive PPV fighter these days just with that KO power. Imagine how much Mayweather-Hearns would make.

Benavidez has the jab, some power (not Hearns-like) and some silky skills but has the hands and the chin slowing his ascent. If he wants to get to world level he's going to have to be able to take punches.

[Master]

Scratch the last one, there is hope for him. I called him a top prospect in 2012 and he only fought once in 2013. But per boxrec he has been active in 2014 Jose Benavidez.

4 years: only 21 fights welter being brought along too slow IMO- unless he is injruy prone-set to face Muarico Herrera.

In addition to the hand problems he also looks to have a glass jaw. He got caught by a non-puncher in one of his recent fights and was out on his feet. How he survived the round I don't know. He was still wobbled at the end of the fight. His jab is a thing of beauty though.

A Latin Hearns?
I remember Gil Clancey commentating on Barkley-Hearns "The one thing about a Hearns fight, you know Somebody is gonna get knocked out."

Hearns had that right hand though. Hearns would be a massive PPV fighter these days just with that KO power. Imagine how much Mayweather-Hearns would make.

Benavidez has the jab, some power (not Hearns-like) and some silky skills but has the hands and the chin slowing his ascent. If he wants to get to world level he's going to have to be able to take punches.

Floyd would not fight Hearns, he would accuse him of taking drugs to protect his precious 0.